Dakars and 5100s Compatibility Questions

Hi all,

I am getting ready to replace my entire rear suspension including all hardware. I got Dakars as well as 5100s for the rear. Essentially my question is:

Will the Dakars provide enough lift for the 5100s to fit properly? Links to what I purchased are below for the sake of model numbers and such.

I would also like to add, will I need the brake line extension? Ive seen many posts where they do not use it, and some posts where people do use it...so I am at a crossroads.

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a noob question....I consider myself a noob after all lol

 

yes, you should be fine. The Dakars are like 2.5" lift, and the 5100s need 1-3" lift.

I'd for sure get the brake line, too.

You're good to go.

 

Consider fabbing up a riser/mount or buy a BPV relocation bracket kit.

 

yeah, good point, forgot about the bracket.

They're super easy to fab, just need some 1" steel flatbar maybe 3"16" or less, and some holes drilled...

 

How much lift are you trying to achieve and how are you lifting the front? With stock coils?

 

I believe there are 2 different kinds of 5100s for the rear, ones for 0-1" lift and another for up to 3"...make sure you order the ones for 3" since the Dakars will give you about that much lift.

 

hmmm...is this completely necessary? It is the first I am hearing of it. I have seen people do this same lift and I dont think they have done this.

About 2-3 inches. The front is done already with 5100s on lowest setting with 881 coils.

 

Pardon my ignorance, but can you link me to the correct extension cable? Do I need an extension for drive and passenger side?

Thanks!

 

I wouldn't say the BPV relocation bracket is 'necessary' but it does help bring back some of the proper braking ability in the rear after you lift it. When you lift the rear with the BPV in the stock location is messes with it's ability to properly sense the load, it's not that noticeable probably because the majority of our truck's braking comes from the front, but some people claim to notice better braking overall once they relocate it by raising it up some. TBH I didn't really notice a difference, but's a really cheap and easy mod to do so why not.

 

Yeah you want to extend ALL of your brake lines, front and rear. So 3 total (one for each side up front, then your rear brake line). I would say this one IS necessary because if you over stretch your brake lines after you lift the truck, they can break or leak and that will cause you to loose all brake function. Even a small tear can get air into the system and then none of your brakes will work properly.

 

Got it...I will consider it. I see BAMF sells them for cheap. Thanks man!

 

This is a complete brake line extension kit, there are many others out there too.

https://www.marlincrawler.com/brake/brake-line/tacoma-extended-brake-line-kit

I lifted my truck and didn't do my brake lines for about a year, which I was dumb to do but I didn't know the importance of it at the time. I was fine, I even did a lot of offroading, but I did notice one day how stretched out the rear line was and after that I ordered the kit.

The stock fronts aren't usually as maxed out with a lift but it's a good idea to do them too, plus having steel braided lines is a nice upgrade for braking in general.

 

oh damn lol did not know that! Thanks dude! Sick rig btw.

 

yeah like I said it's usually not imperative right away and the urgency depends more on how much you're lifting, how much more travel you're getting, etc... but you never know when you might get into a situation where you could over extend them, especially if you wheel your truck. Losing brake function especially offroad would not be good.

 

Exactly. Thanks for the help again. This forum never disappoints!

 

How much lift are you trying to achieve? dakars will crank your arse up to the sky like this guy, among many other tacoma owners
Taking lift advice from hardcore overlanders maybe isn't what you should be looking for as a daily driver!

Also I encourage you to watch this demonstration into what changing lift height does to your driveline angles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmV4qwLfOMY

 

It's weird because when I installed my Dakars I barely got 3" of lift out of them, granted I do have a RTT over the bed but it's only ~140 pounds. I even had to install an AAL into mine just to get the full 3".

Dakars do settle though and usually pretty quickly, they're pretty soft riding springs which is why they're not generally recommended for 'overland' setups, i.e. roof top tents, camping gear, fuel cans, etc. They'll sag something fierce if you carry much more than what the stock leafs are rated for.

To my knowledge there's only one version of the Dakars for our trucks, the standard duty ones. For 2nd/3rd gens, Dakar sells medium duty and heavy duty packs.

 

It's funny you post this @buildataco because I just installed 5100 rear's earlier today, and OME Dakar's over a week ago.

I had Fox 2.0's in the rear, but that didn't pan out well for me.

Overall I gained a good 3" of lift in the rear...hoping it settles some because I have a ton of rake otherwise I'll be pulling a leaf out.

 

You only really need to extend the front brake lines if you get longer (long travel) control arms. The steel braided lines do increase performance, but it's not like you're going to over-extend the line like you would the rear.

@buildataco here's another link to the front/rear lines. I don't believe the ones above are any longer than stock, either.

OME has an add-a-leaf you can get for them for the "heavy duty" version.