Should i trade 4Runner for Tacoma

Take it back!

 

Its actually the opposite, ever driven a new 4runner?? The nose dive is notorious. Tacoma with its longer wheel base doesn't dive nearly as much.

Plus the Tacoma actually outbrakes the 4Runner even with its drum rears.

 

I've said this before and got flammed hard lol. Which is silly because I've owned multiple tacomas AND 4runners and love both.

But 4runners are way more tippy, I know from experience I flipped one SIX times down the side of a mountain.

Tacomas flex more having the bed seperate from the cab and with the longer wheel base and lower center of gravity they're a LOT more stable doing desert running.

I still always say though if I din't use my bed I'd still be in a 4Runner and will likely have my girlfriend buy one so we can have both

 

I've owned jeeps and Chevys, and a few 3rd gen tacomas... Not a single problem with any of my tacomas... No transmission issues. No mechanical or driving issues. No issues at all. Except leaf springs squeaky after lots of mudding. But the dealership installed silencers for free and stopped the squeak.

Some people are just really unlucky or expect a truck to drive like a car... I remember why i stopped looking through this forum... So many people complaining and even after switching vehicles they have nothing better to do with their lives but come complain on everyone else's post.

If you have a problem with your truck take it to the dealership. If they don't remedy the problem tell them you'll be calling corporate and try another dealership. If that doesn't work call corporate offices. If you bought the truck and it drove like that from day 1 that's your fault. If it started having problems later that's what warranties are for. If you started hating the vehicle after buying it then be a man, suck it up, and trade it in. Then move on with your life.

It's like middle school in here.

 

Do you mean the side-to-side jiggle due to the panhard bar? I've heard a LOT of complaints on the 4th gen Ram, but on SUVs like the Tahoe and T4R I don't notice it at all, just that coils ride better than leafs.

I interpreted OP's statement as more of a traction problem in adverse weather conditions. Something I would imagine the T4R as having a slight advantage as it at least puts some weight over the rear, unloaded.

Perhaps the terrible ride quality of a RCSB has just skewed my perception of ride quality. When it comes to jumping, I wouldn't really subject anything other than a Raptor to it lol.

 

What does nose dive have to do with fishtailing?

The 5th gen 4Runner nose dive was no different to me than that I’ve experienced in my tacoma or what people have described with FJs.

 

Bro just google it, almost every review of the 4runner mentions it and 4runner forums are FILLED with discussions about it.

Google "tacoma nose dive" and a 4runner thread pops up lol.

I get it you like the 4runner but its silly to pretend it doesn't have its own cons.

 

Dealership gave me a 4Runner to drive while they did the diff replacement on my Tacoma. Couldn’t wait to get my truck back.

 

Keep the 4Runner but trade up if you really want that little bit of extra off road capability. You'll be more comfortable in the T4R unless your behind fits perfectly in the Tacoma's seats and your legs and torso are perfectly shaped for it, lol

 

I’m just going to stop you there because your reading comprehension clearly isn’t there. Fishtailing is NOT the same thing as nosedive unless your definition of nosedive means losing rear end traction. I don’t need to google anything “bro”. I’ve put 300 miles on a 5th gen, enough to know the road feel is bland and plenty enough to get the nose dive you keep droning on about. Nose dive is from the soft stock suspension Toyota puts on these vehicles. Even my 2nd gen Tacoma with stock suspension had nose dive.

 

Probably would also aid the discussion if there was some clarification as to the trim and suspension setup amongst the users who are saying the 4R has serious nosediving or body roll problems. A pair of SR5 no-name shocks is going to support that front end differently from the Bilstein 4600s on the TRDOR, the TRD Pro Bilsteins, or the Fox 2.5s(?) on the TRD Pro. The SR5 and TRD Pro sway bars are likewise going to mitigate body roll very differently from the massive KDSS sway bar.

The Taco feels pretty good on the road, like most midsize trucks do. It's rather squat, even compared to the Collie/Canyon. The T4R fits the curb weight of a large mid-size or short full-size pickup into a wheelbase shorter than both, while sitting relatively high. It's not going to take corners like a X3.

 

Completely agree.

 

Not that it proves anything (it doesn’t), but holy shit are these entertaining to watch. Also......before the saintly types start commenting......the driver is killed dead in ever vid.....be forewarned. Body parts everywhere.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WjhNnEL26Vs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Anbn3OYZ0I

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1_pPnB5d4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJkEV9YjQk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svATnW858MA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3X-bQUDJrDE

 

Lol damn I was in my friends 4runner a long time ago and it felt like we were going to roll i quickly jumped to the other side of the suv so we wouldn't. Didn't know it was a real problem with them

 

The #1 reason to trade your 4Runner for a Tacoma....other than wanting a truck to do truck stuff.....it might save your life, maybe.

“shit sandwich” safety at best. The Runner shows its years:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aht7Sc_J4OU

Impressive:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eouRDQ417mU

 

Those 3rd gens are definitely something.

As for the narrow overlap, I can honestly understand why. The test only came out around 2014, which pretty much shafts earlier designs like the 5th gen. The 13th gen F-150 came out just in time to take advantage of the new test, earning it TSP. Likewise with the 3rd gen Taco. The 4R joins most other cars/trucks in not doing particularly well in narrow overlap.

I'm surprised the 3rd gen Taco didn't earn TSP like the F-150, having done well in all the tests. The standout disgrace are the Collies/Canyons, which came out in 2015 like the F-150, yet still couldn't ace the tests, with the extended cab which is what I had disappointing in both side and small overlap.

 

Having to use hand controls after a 4runner overlap accident merely increases it's overall level of refinement

 

Exact reason I did not do a cab mount chop on my Runner... I love my 4runner it's an awesome SUV truly one of the last greats but it has it's shortcomings as well. I don't like how the gas tank hangs down low sure it bigger but I would rather have it tucked up higher at the loss of interior space plus the lower links mounts tend to get buggered if you wheel these rigs hard. The shorter wheel base is a plus but all in all owning both I cannot say one is really that much better than the other. I love the interior of the Runner as it's super nice but I like how spartan my Taco is plus the fact it doesn't have carpet.. Any way to each his own one can argue for years on this but they are just some great rigs we are lucky to get here in the states... PS my 1st gen daily driver Taco still has less rattles than both these trucks and it's twice as old as both of them put together Some pics of my turkeys below...



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I found eating roast beef through a straw to be very refined.