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What have you done to your Tacoma today? 1st Gen Edition

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by SlimDigg, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:40 PM
    eon_blue

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    It's been like that since the truck had 24k miles on it when I bought it bone stock. The last set of OEM LBJs were installed at Toyota at 33k. I don't think it's a fix, I think there are 2 different part numbers were looking at here.

    I would have to verify but the one thing coming to mind is how some people get bolts with their assemblies that are 2 different lengths. Others come with all 4 the same length (what mine came like). The 2 washers effectively shortens 2 of the bolts, at least that's the only sense I can make of it.

    Its put together the same way the Toyota service dept put them together on both the last 2 sets of OEM LBJs I had so I'm not gonna fret over it
     
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  2. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:48 PM
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    Your bolts came with double washers on them? Stacking washers of the same type is not normal and in some industries prohibited. There's no reason for it other than for taking up slack as a work around. Stacked washers can act as a spring & be unreliable. Washers aren't normally hardened, not sure if the captive ones on Toyota bolts are, I never checked. But ok, I still don't believe that stacked washers is stock.

    These are the different LBJ bolts. No double washers.

    toy_90_lbj_bolts3.jpg
     
  3. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM
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    They didn't come with them but the last two sets of them I had that were installed at the dealership did, I can't imagine they'd do something like that as a workaround for a spindle with bad threads. All bolts I pulled out were the same length as the new ones I put in (I compared them side by side) so I put the same extra washer on them that Toyota put on them last time. The way it was put together is a mirror image of the way it was when I pulled it off
     
  4. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:53 PM
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    I'll take some pics when I do the other side tomorrow so you guys have a visual lol.
     
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    Double washers are not stock.

    @eon_blue IMO your sheared bolt failure was cause by the bolt binding up. It had nowhere to go. My guess is that the threads are fucked up in your spindle.
     
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  6. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:55 PM
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    On both spindles on the same 2 bolts per side? Toyota did both of them like that last time, same 2 bolts on both sides of the truck

    Only one bolt sheared and I honestly think it was either a faulty bolt or the fact that I had the torque wrench at an awkward angle when I torqued it. When I pulled that assembly off and reinstalled another bolt into that same hole it went in at 59ft/lbs just fine.
     
  7. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM
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    Get a pitman arm puller. Pickle forks are for Neanderthals. How much do you trust your torque wrench? I've used some that are awful and don't always click when correct torque is achieved. Even if the bolt was bottomed out it should have clicked before enough force was put on it to twist it. I used to have the rock boot and no longer do. All of my bolts are the same size and I've not needed a second washer to account for the rock boot not being there. I'd suggest threading the bolt in without the bj and measuring how much is exposed when it bottoms out. Hopefully that number is less than the thickness of the bj flange.

    @Squeaky Penguin has one mounted somewhere inside mission control. Which screen it is is anybodys guess :boink:
     
  8. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:58 PM
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    Yeah when I did round 2 today I used a Pitman Puller, much much easier than that damn pickle fork was.

    I'll take more pics tomorrow on the other side to show you guys what it looks like before/after. I think it'll help clarify things.
     
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  9. Jun 15, 2019 at 10:01 PM
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    I wouldn't be surprised. Just cause it's a dealer doesn't mean everything their techs do is 100% "correct". If you don't believe me search online about stacking washers & bolts with washers vs flanged bolts. Not saying the bolt with washer is bad, just the using more than one part of the same type (unlike a flat washer + lock washer). Not trying to argue with you, moreso that it might not be a bad idea to look further regarding stacked washers.

    Perhaps ask the rest of the guys here if they are using stacked washers too & if their trucks originally came that way.
     
  10. Jun 15, 2019 at 10:03 PM
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    I'll show you detailed pics tomorrow lol. I have a feeling a lot of this is confusion being lost in online communication. If the consensus then is still to take them off then I will
     
  11. Jun 15, 2019 at 10:10 PM
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    @zero4 @Reh5108 Ok this is a screen grab from the Low Range Offroad video for LBJ install. You can see the small washer and the larger one above it. This is exactly how it looks like on my truck, on both driver & passenger

    I almost wonder if maybe this was originally just a part of the dust boot? Mine aren't attached anymore to the boot (if that's the case) and maybe that's why it looks like a 2nd washer? It's solid though and not soft rubber like the boot.

    Screen Shot 2019-06-15 at 10.06.06 PM.jpg
     
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  12. Jun 15, 2019 at 10:28 PM
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    Pulled the power wiring harness off the truck to get a better look and to clean and repair any issues before hooking it up to the starter and alternator. I'm glad I did. I had a few problems would have come back to bite if left unaddressed.

    The old plastic cable tray that runs below the crankshaft pulley had become brittle. Also, it was full of dirt and engine grime. I suspected it would bite into one of the wires and cause problems.

    AAAe_00_Before_Harness_3b1c2d345634e8b954b6b6263c4f6794f31fb2fe.jpg

    Picture of the old harness before I took it apart for inspection, cleaning, and to be wrapped in F4 Silicone Tape.

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    The old protective conduit has open gaps that let in oil and road grit.

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    Electrical system gremlins waiting to happen.

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    Took a while to get the old harness apart and cleaned up. I used Isopropyl alcohol at 90% for the cleanup.

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    Remnants from the harness cleanup.

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    Once the harness was cleaned up, I wrapped it with one layer of F4 Silicone tape. This first wrap forms an airtight, watertight, and grit proof layer over the old cables. It's like being inside a giant heat shrink.

    AAAe_06_Before_Harness_40b775c8792866fdc5290bc2252e7796dd4a9db3.jpg

    Then I put on a new layer of flameproof automotive electrical conduit and wrapped that with F4 silicone tape.

    I will use new insulated wire loom mounting brackets to mount this. Some of the old mounts will still work.

    AAAe_07_After_Harness_9d3514411b710cd5480bfa68e90bad196c871ff0.jpg

    Tomorrow I will clean up and rewrap the injector and upper-level wiring harness.
     
  13. Jun 15, 2019 at 10:31 PM
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    That’s my understanding. I originally dremeled out a place for my factory blinkers in the side marker lights. Then it broke and I don’t want to do that every time. Hope will be done this week.
     
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    that small washer is the metal washer thing to attach the dust boot
     
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    ^agree
     
  19. Jun 16, 2019 at 7:09 AM
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