Thinking of trading in my 18 Taco for a full-size

You obviously didn't research this issue that much.

Plenty of cases out there. Google searching isn't hard.

Again I ask: why would Ford switch over to direct + port injection with the later models if there was nothing wrong with direct injection only?

You're either ignorant of this issue or you very well know its an issue and you're playing dumb...direct injection issues are well known in the sports car and tuning communities. And they've become increasingly familiar to the owners of early F-150 ecoboost models.

 

If you're only going to keep the truck for two or three years, might as well try out the RAM.

When I was shopping for trucks this most recent time, I kind of considered the RAM because they just released the new generation and there were supposed to be good deals on the previous gen. I think it was possible to get one with the options and config I wanted for about $35k? Don't know if any previous gens are still available. The newer gen is massive and I wouldn't even consider.

But other than maybe the RAM, I didn't really see what people were saying how the price difference between full sized and midsized were neglible. Where most of the new midsized trucks I was looking at was around the $30k mark and the comparable full sized were $40k and up.

I think it was not being able to find anything online that made me feel confident about the long term reliability of the RAM and that I had issues with parking and maneuvering in the places that I normally go to in my previous truck, that I didn't really consider the RAM more.

But they say most cars/trucks should be good for the first couple of years. And the RAM is rated highly in publications and members in another forum I was on seemed to like it. So if long term reliability isn't a factor, I would say the OP may want to look at that as others mentioned.

I ended up with the DCLB Tacoma because I figured that the bed was bigger than most full size crew cab short beds, still haul people adequately and didn't have the massive size of full sizers.

Regarding reviews and publications. My previous truck, the Nissan Frontier, didn't get much love from the press during it's middle years. It's getting positive reviews more recently for being great value for the money. But before that it would get dinged for not getting a redesign in almost ten years, not offering the latest and greatest, etc, etc. But you know what? The Frontier did what I wanted and needed it to and suited my needs well. I potentially view the Tundra the same way. I'm not necessarily against technology or advances. But a lot of the things I don't find useful and don't want to end up paying for. That's one of the things that took the Ridgeline out of consideration for me. Where it was the most expensive midsized truck when looking at comparing trucks with the features that I wanted.

Another case in point, I stopped paying attention to Consumer Reports a while ago when they started to weigh the infotainment systems more heavily in their ratings. Infotainment systems don't really mean anything to me. So when looking at reviews and ratings, make sure to see what they're looking at and see how much it matters to you.

Anyways for me, I decided that instead of going to a full sized, I'll probably look at the Ridgeline more. The main reason I would go to a full size is to get more interior room. But the way I use a truck, there's no reason why I should get a V8 and don't want to deal with the size of the full sizers. I'll also look at the Chevy Colorado more the next time around. You can get a six foot bed crew cab with a decent turning radius and it has a decent size interior room as well. The main reason why I didn't get consider it this time was the same reason as the RAM, where I wasn't confident in it's long term reliability. But know someone that got one recently and am waiting to see how it treats them and what they say about it.

 

pretty soon youre gonna need a cdl for a full size. They are insanely big.

 

More important though, when will people need to buy new batteries for these vehicles? And how much will they cost?

This is my single biggest gripe with electric vehicles. These companies love to market ranges and 0-60 times (when brand new, and in optimal conditions) but fail to point out the relatively poor longevity of the technology. Do basic maintenance on a gasoline Tacoma and you can easily get 20+ years out of it and 300k miles on the original engine and transmission, and the truck will still get the same range at 300k miles as it did when new. That's not happening on any electric vehicle right now.

Until battery tech reaches that level of durability and longevity, I'm not interested. Sorry.

 

Reliability, comes for me, over all the frills. Technology and gizmos that arent perfected only annoy me, and imagine getting a turbo charger over naturally aspirated engines. I guess I do most of my own work and have owned all the brands, ford is second in reliability to toyota, but with those meme engines I'm still going with the Tundra tbh

 

this forum is freaking poison. I swear one day I want to spent 3k tricking it out. The Next day Ill read threads like this and I want to trade in the damn thing. lol

 

You have to find what you like that fits your personal life and needs.

We can go around in circles complaining or pointing out each of the big 4's issues. They all have them. Some more than others...

My only experience is with GM/Chev full size 1/2 tons. I've been a full-size GM driver since Dec. '95. I've had nothing but GREAT experiences with GM vehicles.

'96 Chev ECSB Z71 5.7l (bought brand new. Sold with 140k miles on it. Only breakdown was fuel pump)
'99 Chev 4 Door Tahoe LT 5.7l(Bought used. Sold with 125k miles. Again fuel pump was only problem)
'02 Chev ECSB Z71 5.3l (Bought used. Sold with 150k miles. Again, fuel pump)
'08 CCSB SLT Z71 5.3l (Bought New. Traded in with 127k miles. Had a door lock actuator go bad)
'15 CCSB SLT Z71 5.3l (Bought New. Currently has 73k miles. Zero issues)
(have also owned (wife drives) an '02 Chev Tahoe, an '07 GM Yukon 6.2l, and a '17 Gm Yukon 6.2l).

You might ask WTF I'm doing on TW. Well, my needs have changed. My business is doing well enough that I'm personally never the one that is hooking up a trailer, or throwing a pallet of anything in the bed anymore. The only us for the truck is to occasionally throw parts in the bed and to haul my kids junk to sports practices. It's also to get me up to my favorite fishing spot or down to the shore to fish.
Parking sucks where I'm at and my truck turns worse than a boat. Can't fit in my garage either. So, considering a mid sized truck now.

 

The turning radius on a Tacoma sets no world records. My '04 Z71 Tahoe does.

 

Wife's Yukon also turns way better than my truck. The Tacoma I test drove also turned way better. Hell, I bet a stretch limo would compete.

 

Got it. You couldn't find a documented example. Just show me one case with pics to back it up.

I already responded to you why they changed to dual. Maybe you didn't like it or you're playing dumb.

For the final nail in the coffin here's exactly how Ford avoided the carbon build up issue with the 3.5.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7137377

 

My history with GM products has also been great. I hope it continues with this Sierra 1500 6.2.

 

My experience with GM is tainted by a 98 blazer I owned,by 200k I had swapped one of everything. I think they had changed from the planned obsolescence course they were on with their run up to bankruptcy. My problem is you can see them falling right back into old patterns. Before 09 they had like 130 paint variants and after the bail out it dropped to like 10, now its steadily climbed again.

 

In the relentless pursuit of mpg, all mfg's are struggling with certain things. Mostly transmissions with too many gears and imperfect software.

 

To the OP: Don't do it. I traded my 2005 Taco in for a GMC Sierra 1500 and the love fest lasted about 6 months. MPG sucked, the full size is cumbersome, and the quality was garbage.

I finally went back to my love and got a 2018 DC LB and love it!

 

All the MPG tricks are getting out of hand. Recently test drove a car with that auto start/stop feature and it drove me nuts.

 

Have owned a 2002 1/2 ton chevy that cost me a trans and a fuel pump and a 2001 zr2 that loved ball joints and had to have the emissions system replaced to the tune of $3000, which to be fair, GM repaired under good will thank goodness.
Experiences vary.

 

The MPG on my '18 6.2L 1500 is consistently 2-5MPG better than my '19 Tacoma. (2 around town and 5 on the open highway) And I only have 750 miles on it so it's not even broken in yet.

 

That's due to the cylinders shutting off, I assume.

 

switched back into full size (new platinum ecoboost F1500) and I’ll never look back. Consistently getting better MPG in my f150 than the taco, tows better, bigger, comfortable, basically drives itself, etc.

 

When I drive my wife's Yukon ('17 6.2l) for any extended period of time, it consistently gets ~3mpg better than my Sierra ('15 5.3l). I'm on a bigger tire though (295/55 r 20) so it's not a real fair comparison.