2020 Tacoma Teased

Can’t wait for 2020 pricing info. Anyone think it will be revealed in July

 

If you watch around the 1:50 or 2 minute mark you can see they did away with the small lower left storage spot.

 

I assume that they had to put the button for the birds eye camera somewhere and ran out of room. I know my 18 doesn't have any spots left on the center console.

 

Seems like a waste of that panel. They only have 2 buttons in there and there is room for at least a couple more. They should have thrown some extra blanks in there so we can use them for other stuff! I'm sure someone while come up with a replacement though (@MESO I think already has them, though not sure they are in stock right now).

That's where I have my Tekonsha P3 brake controller mounted too, replacing the cubby, so I'll have to find another place or maybe switch over to the Redarc one since that can be put in a button spot or mounted more easily at least.

 

Finished the video and noticed a couple other things. They moved the traction control button over to where the cubby used to be as well. Seems odd to move that instead of leave it in the overhead console. Maybe just to fill in space because just one random button there (the new camera button) would look silly? Also noticed when they did pan over to the overhead console there is now an SOS button. Never seen that or heard it mentioned before. Is there a Toyota equivalent to an OnStar type system?

 

The Off Road should have 2 different cameras systems too, the 360 panoramic plus the terrain camera, wonder if that 1 switch will operate both?

 

Not to get off subject, but what model year will the next-gen Taco be available? I feel it's gotta be soon... These updates, although needed, aren't enough IMO.

 

Knowing Toyota, no sooner than 2026

 

I am guessing 2025 at the latest, earliest could be 2023 but unlikely.

I say 2025 because Toyota issued a statement in 2018 stating every vehicle they will have either a full electric or hybrid version available by model year 2025. Also this is very close, 9 years, to the cycle the Tacoma has been on 2nd gen was 05-15, 10 years.

 

If they do it, they'll just stuff a hybrid in the Tacomas current gen.

Currently the Tundra is working on 14 yrs of the current gen, the 4Runner is going into year 12. 2023 would make a 4th gen Tacoma occuring after 8 years, it's possible but unlikely.

 

2020 is a Mid-Cycle refresh, gonna be awhile before you see the 4th Gen Taco

 

Tundra current gen was new in 2014 wasn’t it?

 

More common sense features added just to break and inflate the price. Oh joy.

 

You must be new to Toyota / Tacoma. Unlike the domestics they don’t update / refresh as often, to ensure QDR and keep high resale. Don’t expect a new Tacoma till 2023-2024 at the earliest.

 

Nope refresh, same bones as the 2007.

 

Admittedly my math may not be perfect, according to Toyota publications the gen cycles you refer to are not quite accurate. I have also never owned or driven either a Trundra or 4runner, though I do understand they each have devoted following much like the Tacoma.

Tundra 1st gen 2000-2006 =7 years, second (current) gen 2007-2019 < 14 years ... Actually 13 years now possible new gen 2020 or 2021. Also NOT a leader in it's category at all. As long as they can hold the segment ratio they have there is not a lot of motivation to make major change from my perspective.

Tacoma 1st 1995-2004 = 10 years, second 2005-20015, 11 years, 3rd gen 2016 - 2019 = 4 years so far It is currently the leader in the category and has seen competition trying to re-enter and challenge, though unsuccessfully so far, the title.

4Runner 1st 1984-1989 = 5 years, 2nd 1990-1995 = 5 years, 3rd 1996-2002 = 7 years, 4th 2003-2009 = 7 years, 5th 2010 - 2019 = < 12 ... Actually 10 so far. with the current gen gaining popularity, I would expect Toyota is already working to release a new generation.

It seems Toyota is more motivated to update it's vehicles to compete with other labels across the board. Additionally, we have seen many reports concerning the development of a new platform to unify production of several models to help Toyota plants be more nimble in shifting production from one model to another and to allow design and development to update families rather than individual models. I would expect that once this benchmark has been set each family will be more unified in generation cycling.

As I said it was a guess based on previously released statements from Toyota. Since it is close to the 10-ish year cycle, it seems possible.

Does this mean I am right in my 4th gen releasing in 2025 guess? Not at all, It may not happen till 2030, only time will tell.

 

2027

 

"Tundra 1st gen 2000-2006 =7 years, second (current) gen 2007-2019 < 14 years ... Actually 13 years now possible new gen 2020 or 2021" Tundra hasnt changed for MY20 (pro model already shown at Chicago), making it the 14th year of this generation. Model years 2007,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20, 14 years total.

"4Runner 1st 1984-1989 = 5 years, 2nd 1990-1995 = 5 years, 3rd 1996-2002 = 7 years, 4th 2003-2009 = 7 years, 5th 2010 - 2019 = < 12 ... Actually 10 so far" 4Runner hasnt changed for MY20 making it the 11th year without generation change. I miss typed by including 2009 as gen 5. Model years 2010,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 11 years total.

I never referenced Tacoma gen cycles other than to imply that Toyota takes more than 10 years to cycle the other models.

 

Can you explain more about how this? What’s qdr and how does their strategy keep resale high? I would’ve thought that latest and greatest would cause more sales, though I guess Apple doesn’t do that with their tech and they do great on sales.

 

Quality, dependability and reliability. Redesigning a vehicle always comes with growing pains / new year issues. If you are constantly retooling your vehicles become less reliable. And your reputation as a reliable brand suffers. Toyota is slow to change learning and tweaking as they go developing a solid parts bin across multiple platforms. Think GM vehicles and FCA, constantly changing and continually unreliable and not good on resale.

As far as resale, would you buy a previous generation when the new one is currently available with all its latest and greatest, most would go for the newer model, thus the trade in value for the prior generation decreasing as demand for the newer generation increases. Not a big deal when generation life cycle is 6 years plus (Toyota), meaning the first year model is just as desirable or similar enough to maintain decent residual and your likely out of the loan period. If you are redesigning every 3-4 years (think GM) your vehicle is worth crap because by the time it’s paid off you could be already behind a generation or two.