OVTune 3.5L Tacoma Supercharger and Twin Turbo Systems

FI is great, but EROM 2.0 plus exhaust upgrades seems to add plenty of good power, and that setup is around 1000 dollars. FI is going to cost thousands to install. Then thousands when something breaks.

I think OVTune should just focus more on bolt-ons and ECU re-tunes.

 

Thousands to swap injectors?

 

This is a bad take. The more options, the better for everyone. Just because you don't want FI, doesn't mean there aren't a butt load of other people that do.

 

That's like saying don't buy a faster sports car cause its faster and more dangerous........ dont like it, then dont buy it? Anybody with a clue knows adding that much HP to a stock trans will tear it up if your doing nothing but romping on it every single day, even stock engine its going to tear it up. Don't hate the maker cause you're not buying.

 

I dont want something so no one should have it....jeesh

 

He has. But Now it’s time for the next level, and there are a ton of people that will pay thousands for it. (Me included)
Risk of Breaking something goes with the territory. I am fully prepared and accept the consequences of adding more power than the truck was intended for. Not saying it’s going to blow up tomorrow but there’s always a risk. Hell, even stock parts on stock trucks break.

 

The cost to install includes the kit.

 

Do people research anymore?

combustion lean = hot
combustion rich = cool

in boost AFR should be 10.5/11.5 & this is what will stop your exhaust from melting.

Constant High RPM is typical cause of over heating (engine wise).. your transmission will more than likely over heat before you're engine and should be more of your concern with the hill climb demands you have lol

 

I'm hopeful that Mat will include at least one serious off-road enthusiast and one person towing 4k plus (on hills) in development. With respect to towing, torqure, mpg, I'd really like to see someone do OV Tune, OV SC, OV Turbo on this test. Seems like it could be useful in terms of development. Positive results there could sell a shit ton of devices.

Of course Mat is far, far, away.....maybe he could get a volunteer as he gets closer to production?

Off road is of course a different animal. Torque without Twitch (TM).

 

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I rotrex kit would be nice! Also not everyone wanting FI mean’s they are trying to get as much power as possible. Sometimes FI with a nice low boost but low end torque tune could be very satisfying for a truck like this. Especially for towing and wheeling.

 

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Many have been patiently waiting forever for a 3rd Gen FI kit to help boost this anemic engine. There is a large group of TW members who are less concerned about longevity since this is a recreation & utility vehicle. Trucks are meant to be beaten on or worked hard. If they break, you fix them. Anybody buying this FI kit should be well aware of the risks and there will be plenty of us waiting in line to buy it once its available. I don't care if its SC or turbo; likely whatever Mat determines to be the simplest and easiest kit to develop & manufacture will be the one everyone gets first: take it or leave it. So those bitchin' can run your unmodified Taco until 250,000 miles. Mine will likely be in a junk yard or somewhere down in Tijuana in 10 years so I don't care about longevity. It will have lived a good life!

 

I think there are many high mileage Magnusson Supercharged Toyotas. With a well built kit and quality tune you should need a supercharger rebuild or replacement before engine work.

 

OVtune seems to be the only guy that can seriously and positively affect the 2015+ 3.5 engine's performance. If he focused on that, and managed to bring the retail price down, I believe he would make more money. He basically has the Toyota/Lexus tuning market cornered.

How many people would actually buy a FI kit? Maybe 10 a year? Let me know if you think that is not realistic.

The kit will probably retail for 6-8K? he could make 60K to 80K ? After spending 100's of hours on development? The guy seems to be a very good CS engineer, so his time is worth at least $100 an hour.

 

I would put the 2.7L EB engine from my F150 in my Tacoma tomorrow, no regrets, no fear, if that was a possibility.

Ford gets complaints largely for the same reason Toyota does. There’s a gagillion F150s sold every week, and your bound to get some googlable failures.

The F150 power plant, in particular the 2.7L EB mated to the 10 speed, is awesome and Toyota could learn a thing or two from Ford. The Ford powertrain is so smooth, efficient, and powerful, that is it were to break down, you’d be more than happy to fix it. It would be worth it.

 

From that 6-8k revenue, there’s probably 3k+ of hardware and material costs, so your profit calc is a bit off. I think 10 a year is low, but that’s just me.

Getting the power options just right is key. You need a kit that will provide enough power to be worth the $$$, and yet not have serious concerns about durability and reliability. You also need a kit with some serious power to entice those guys that are willing to risk their reliability, but only for those performance gains that meet their needs/desires.

I think the current spread of options does that. Granted, the workload is higher with two platforms and with options in each.

I was interested in the SC for my FJ, but I recall that the HP gains were modest and for some reason I recall that I’d be spending ~$500 per year in belts if I went by the recommended maintenance plan. Looking back, that seems DUMB so I figure I was missing something.

If Mat comes up with a SC solution with 50+ HP usable in the low to mid rpm for the smaller SC, I’m probably in for one but not until I buy my trailer.

 

I meant gross 60K - 80K. I think 3K to 4K for product cost sounds right to me. However, the time he spends on it is worth 100s of thousands because he is such skilled engineer.

What I am saying is that it just doesn't seem like it's worth the effort. How many people are actually going to boost their 3rd Gen's? That's probably why nobody else has came out with a FI kit for the 3.5. The R&D cost are very high and the market is very small.

 

Realistically, I think the amount of people wanting to supercharge their 3rd gens is going to be really high. Thinking long term (10 years) the amount of people wanting it will increase.

The amount of people wanting to twin turbocharge the engine though will be low, this is going to be a more niche setup and I don't think it will be a big seller in comparison. However I personally want twin turbos so it's my goal.


Now, more testing is still required but to give you guys an honest assessment, boost is not going to magically fix the jacked up 5th and 6th gear ratios.

 

Thanks for taking the financial risks to bring these kits to the Tacoma. Hopefully, it all works out!

 

I think you're absolutely right. The demand for supercharging will only increase. I owned a 1997 FZJ80 Landcruiser and that engine stopped being offerred in 1997. The supply of TRD superchargers has dried up. If you go on the 80 series section of ih8mud, people are still looking for an alternative blower. Again, it's been 22 years since that engine and that series of LC went out of production.

For what it's worth, I will be excited to read about the twin turbo setup but I personally don't want or need a 600HP Tacoma. For me, it's all about the supercharger. 350-400 reliable hp, lots of torque, great driveability. I really don't see a setup like that negatively affecting the lifespan of the engine, providing it's properly maintained and driven intelligently. If some guy wants to never change the oil and sidestep the clutch at 7000 RPM, thats not on you.

Thanks for all your hard work.