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Fox Life!!! Anything Related to Fox Suspension

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ThaiChillyTaco, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:34 PM
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    Knapz

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    It's a jittery ride. Handles the big stuff great. It's just the normal street unevenness and cracks that I'm trying to eliminate. that's why I'm considering swapping the coils.
     
  2. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:42 PM
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    After reading all the past few pages I am beginning to think I should upgrade my front coils from the factory fox coils to a set of 14” 600s... the front end is good but not great.. def could be smoother. Question tho... if i do go ahead and swap out coils will I need an alignment again..?
     
  3. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:52 PM
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    Do you have E rated tires?? And what PSI are you running?
     
  4. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:59 PM
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    Probably.. you should be fine with the stock coils if you don’t have much added weight..
     
  5. Jun 28, 2019 at 7:16 PM
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    A0DB5233-FE2B-4317-8996-FF01AB3ABBA4.jpg Really no added weight.. I have the C4 life pro winch bumper but that weighs no more than 75-80 lbs.. but there is a good amount of preload in order to get my height I wanted to.. And E rated 285s.... And speaking of the E rated tires... what psi should I be running on a truck that primarily sees pavement to simply get back and forth to work every day..? Think I’m at 35ish now.?
     
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  6. Jun 28, 2019 at 8:05 PM
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    C rated Ridge Grapps. Will do a chalk test because I just got them.
    Screenshot_20190628-210540_1.jpg
     
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  7. Jun 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM
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    Chalk your tires to find out what psi is best for your particular setup.

    Disregard the vehicle in this video...
    https://youtu.be/ojGsavK0Uwc
     
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  8. Jun 28, 2019 at 10:29 PM
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    switching from 13" to 14" won't make your ride any better. it's the valving of the shocks that you'll want to adjust to your liking. if you're going to swap coils, get them tuned to your liking. and alignment - yes for sure.
     
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  9. Jun 29, 2019 at 8:55 AM
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    Great, thanks for the info!
     
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    if you haven't noticed, Accutune has been the most helpful with suspension information and custom tuning for a lot of taco folks. i'd suggest checking them out.
     
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  11. Jun 29, 2019 at 9:25 AM
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    A maxed out preloaded 13" won't ride worse than a 14" with little preload?
     
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    I didn’t mention that my shocks were valved by @AccuTune Offroad and I’m very pleased with the outcome
    not necessarily. Unless you are going into to coil bind or if you don’t have any down travel but @*TRD* should be able to answer this better than i can
     
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  13. Jun 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM
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    If they're both 600 # coils and your sitting in the proper sag of the stroke of the shock, no. They will ride the same. Turning the collar down for setting ride height doesn't put any more or less force on the spring. The trucks weight puts force on the spring and that is going to be constant no matter where you set that collar. Again, this is only the case when you are within the proper sag for the stroke length of your shock. Turning the collar too much can cause too much lift, reducing down travel and cause a rough ride. Same goes if not enough lift and your riding your bumpstops the whole time.

    Now 14" 600# coils can support more weight than 13" 600# coils. Almost as much as 14# 650# coils. You can read more about that on Accutunes website. https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/coilover-spring-rates-for-toyota-tacoma-4runner/

    Edit: for those that are visual, I made a quick sketch of what everyone is calling preload.IMG_8697.PNG.jpg
     
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  14. Jul 1, 2019 at 8:01 AM
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    :thumbsup: Well said!
     
  15. Jul 3, 2019 at 5:46 AM
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    I have a question if I could trouble you guys.

    I just lifted my 2017 Tacoma 4x4 TRD-OR DCSB with Fox 2.5 coilover ext travel with All-Pro UCAs. I'm running Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70/17 with Fuel JM2 F572 wheels @ offset to -6.3mm. I'm only getting 23" on my Driver side from mid hub to fender, 23.5 on passenger with my preload cranked down to 2.75 inches of thread both sides.

    On the driver side only, I'm getting cab mount rub on the back of the fender wheel only when turned mid-hard left. It clears once I go full left. No issues turning right.

    What's the best way to rid this? Do I need to get a 14" 600 lb spring to lift the front up another inch to clear? Will I have to do a CMC?

    Thx for you help.
     
  16. Jul 3, 2019 at 7:59 AM
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    I'd say you could get a CMC, or get an alignment and have the tech try to take out some caster to put your wheel further from the rear of the fender well.

    Disclaimer: I don't have a third gen
     
  17. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:10 AM
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    Measure the spring length at full droop, it shouldn't be shorter than 11-3/8” tall. This is the max preload you will want on a 13” x 600 lb/in Spring.

    Take a look at our Spring Rate Article for Tacomas: https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/coilover-spring-rates-for-toyota-tacoma-4runner/
     
  18. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:29 AM
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    I’m about to pull the trigger on some Fox 2.5 fronts with resis and 2.0 RR rears for my 2018 Taco. For now, I am just looking for 1” front and rear lift and will be putting a 1” block in the back. Down the road I plan to get UCAs and a new leaf pack to get 2.5-3”.

    That said, can I run extended coilovers on stock UCAs until I swap out my UCAs next year? Also, at 1” is it really necessary to do a diff drop or needle bearing etc.?
     
  20. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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    As I understand it, diff drop, carrier bearing drop, needle bearing, shim plates, etc, aren't always required, regardless of amount of lift. You have to measure your pinion angles before and after the lift, with the goal of making both ends of that system parallel (there's lots of juicy info on this site so I won't do it injustice by regurgitating it haphazardly). Some people go up a few inches and have no problems. It seems to be a truck-by-truck basis.

    Disclaimer: I am not an expert at this and all my info comes from this site and some awesome members and vendors on it. Plus a little help from the Almighty Google. In true Internet spirit, I expect someone more intelligent than me in this topic to correct me if I'm wrong.

    Also, for the leaf packs, I've got Icon RXTs waiting for installation. There are cheaper options but I like that you have different settings for the RXT.
     
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