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1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Speedytech7, May 31, 2018.

  1. Jun 30, 2019 at 1:58 PM
    cruiserguy

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    Look how perfect that thing was. It was upgraded in the period too, that all old upgrades that got it well over stock power. Real stuff from Greddy and HKS.
     
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    It would have been a stock truck when it was new. Anyone that's gonna buy just a frame is getting up to some nonsense
     
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    That's close to the most shitty bizarre car stories I've heard. I thought they mighta been faking something. But I believe it now
     
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    If you’re just swapping a frame never intending to weld to it I don’t see the issue.
     
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    No truck comes stock with a galvanized frame, because repair are always a possibility. It's certainly cheaper than PC for a factory so why wouldn't they do it. Also galvanized things still rust anyway, just look at old uhauls that have seen the salt belt
     
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    I dunno. Reading up on the internet, it is something some people do. Far cheaper than powdercoating.
     
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    Too nasty of a coating for me to ever want to fuck with and not effective enough for the hassle.
     
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    What would you do?
     
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    Leave it with the stock powder job and touch it up as necessary. The galvanizing is only going to survive well in the climates that the powder already does well in. You're fucked six ways from Sunday in the rust belt no matter what. If you really wanted to you could have a more stout powder job done. But regular (once every year or every other year for places with less salting) with Krown or fluid film is fine. Remember our bodies are painted, much less robust than galvanizing or PC and they hold up fine, you can do a better PC job hell you can do a better paint job. Maybe include a couple more drain holes for liquid too in the boxed sections
     
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    Because learning things is fun either way. Not everything has to benefit you.
     
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    I've met people like that, turns out being desperate isn't a replacement for research.

    Years ago people were really into coating frames with heavy rubberized undercoat, well you know what that does now, but the sales folks and people who were desperate not to have their car rot out from under them wanted to believe the obvious wouldn't happen.

    https://youtu.be/nXvl9nt57Kg
     
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    Lol. Even a measly NC winter will crust over a zinc galvanized grade 8 bolt in 2 years. Galavanizing doesnt do anything better than a proper coat of primer and paint.
     
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    And rubberized coating doesnt either. The ultimate solution is less salt and brine. Cause that rubberized coating when in a normal environment doesn't have any harmful effects other than making things very crusty and tough to work on. My point here is that this frame rot problem is mostly contained to Toyotas from a certain generation and comes down to the original coating being weak in some spots internally. It's actually pretty good on the exterior, and it doesn't help that the ductile grade of steel that Dana used was low grade and had very little corrosion inhibiter naturally. For the costs involved there is no better solution that applying thick tacky oil to the frame. You'd have to do the same to galvanizing to keep it clean too. Look at other trucks like modern Ford's and Dodges (I'm excluding Chevy cause they're having trouble with frame coating) they survive just fine even uncoated, sure they surface rust but perforation is rare.
     
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    That's only the thickness of the coating that is being applied. Not the effectiveness of it
     
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    Not really man. Ive seen galvanized chain link fence posts rot through up here. Just because you see that it works in rust free Texas doesnt mean it works well in other states.
     
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    If road brine was only as corrosive as salt water, we'd be a lot better off.
     
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