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Help quality checking my future house (new build)

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by ThunderOne, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. Jul 23, 2019 at 10:05 PM
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    OZ-T

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    R-32 sloped ceilings , R-50 flat
     
  2. Jul 23, 2019 at 10:07 PM
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    Ahhh there is that "heavy" insulation R-50 flat. We are a minimum of R-38 on the flat in Colorado

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  3. Jul 23, 2019 at 10:24 PM
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    R-15 apparently. TN has a fairly weird range of temperatures. Climate zone 4.

    Not sure what the rating of the foam will be.

    (Edit see my next post)
     
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  4. Jul 23, 2019 at 10:27 PM
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    We're climate zone 4 as well , R-15 is less than we put in walls haha
     
  5. Jul 23, 2019 at 10:28 PM
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    I'm looking at the blueprints (on page 2 of this thread), and the notes say code is minimum r-30 or r-38 depending on where it is. Even though the purchase agreement only says r-15. :notsure: Maybe it was an old contract template or something and someone forgot to update that part
     
  6. Jul 23, 2019 at 10:32 PM
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    Some other pics.
    noticed the foam pulled away from this pipe.

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  7. Jul 24, 2019 at 3:19 AM
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    The pink stuff pulled away from the pipe is fire stop. It's purpose is to slow down fire spread to the next floor.
     
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  8. Jul 24, 2019 at 7:44 AM
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    @ThunderOne hopefully the pictures below help you understand what OZ-T and I were talking about as far as the roof framing is concerned.

    This is a typical drawing of a ridge beam and its end support.

    ridge beam.jpg

    This drawing show the load forces on a roof (without a ridge beam) and its effect.
    unsupported roof.jpg

    Hope that helps.

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  9. Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM
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    now that they are starting on electrical and have a lot of the electrical wired up, I'll go by there every day until that part is close to done. I'll let y'all know if they change the framing some more in that vaulted room.
     
  10. Jul 24, 2019 at 10:59 AM
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    @ThunderOne @OZ-T I spent a bit of time and went back to the beginning of this thread and found some details that the framer and project manager or site superintendent overlooked. The original design for this build was copyright in 2014, so i would guess this is not the first build of this design. The "kinks" for the build should have been worked out years ago (or at least one would think).

    I found these notes: The plan calls out (for the "High Roof Slope") 2x10 rafters on 16 inch centers supported by a triple LVL beam (each LVL 1 3/4 x 11 1/4) and 2x10 rafters on 12 inch centers supported again by a triple LVL beam (each LVL 1 3/4 x 11 1/4) for the "Low Slope Roof". It would be nice to see what details 9 and 10 look like. Clearly, the roof is not framed according to these spec.
    roof frame.jpg

    The specs also call out and rightfully so that the beam is supported on the ends by triple stud posts. Mention is made of a framing detail sheet that may answer more questions.

    roof specs.jpg

    Can the framing be changed? Sure- It would take some time, patience, and a quality oriented framer.

    Let us know how this progresses, talk to who ever is in charge of the project (project manager, site superintendent) and the sooner the better. The last resort would be calling the building inspector, as this move will more than likely upset the builder. But remember this is your home. Take plenty of pictures.

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  11. Jul 24, 2019 at 11:12 AM
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    so basically they need to add 2x10 instead of the 2x6s that are up there now?
     
  12. Jul 24, 2019 at 11:14 AM
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    The more I look at this pic, it looks like they simply stacked another 2x4 on top of the rafters
     
  13. Jul 24, 2019 at 11:16 AM
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    gonna upload some better pics of the framing plan in this post

    apparently this page was updated August 2017

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  14. Jul 24, 2019 at 7:18 PM
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    Unless I'm missing something , your roof framing plan looks to call for 2x10 rafters at 16" OC with a 3 ply LVL ridge beam
     
  16. Jul 24, 2019 at 10:46 PM
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    They made the 2x6s 2x8s by nailing 2x2 to it... oy
     
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    I’m no framer, or builder but I’m thinking that can’t be legal. I would make a call to the building inspector/city engineer and have him/them come check out that entire room. Seems like there could potentially be multiple code violations.
     
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    I'm going to email a bunch of inspectors - I am not sure which ones are overseeing this area.
     
  19. Jul 25, 2019 at 10:54 PM
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    Are cracks in load bearing studs normal? Several spots in the garage have cracks going up the entire stud.
     
  20. Jul 26, 2019 at 7:12 AM
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    Not really unusual
     

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