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TRD/ Magnuson 4.0 Supercharger Tips, Tricks, and Mods

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by 12TRDTacoma, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Jul 27, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    Yes, I thought I followed all instructions carefully but had I not hesitated and pestered @12TRDTacoma bad stuff could have happened. The 50mm pulley appears to fit only one way. Not the case. It's in now. Maybe a placebo but things feel more solid when boost comes on.
     
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  2. Jul 27, 2019 at 6:37 PM
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    We’re you still running the stock one?
     
  3. Jul 27, 2019 at 6:44 PM
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    Haven't had time to put it on. I'm working a 2nd job now. I have no garage. I'm usually tag teaming these kinds of projects to make sure they go right. Nearly bombed this one.
     
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  4. Jul 27, 2019 at 6:55 PM
    Kelvin

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    I was thinking just wiring in a light pod that comes on when I’m injecting meth. Progressive, so it doesn’t reach full brightness too early.
     
  5. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:03 PM
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    Snow has one. It's just an on/off led. Their stage 3 controller shown in my center console pic shows it in percentages. A light would be easier to see.
     
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  6. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:11 PM
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    It's not placebo. That was my initial observation as well after running mine. Things just seemed to feel better "held together" for lack of better words.
     
  7. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:14 PM
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    Agreed. Feels firm.
     
  8. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:27 PM
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    Form follows function
    So basically if I add the 50mm Chevy pulley instead of the stock one I have to grind things down? Next question, how does one grind this down?
     
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  9. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:29 PM
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    I used a 4" angle grinder with a backer pad holding 80 grit sandpaper. Took 2 minutes. A dremel would work but takes longer.
     
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    Maybe later. Baby sitting a bbq now. It seems to work great!
     
  12. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM
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    I just went for a look. I cant get a picture.
     
  13. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:45 PM
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    You only remove a strong 1/16" of material all the way around.
     
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    That's what SHE said.
     
  15. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:51 PM
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    :bananadance:
     
  16. Jul 27, 2019 at 7:57 PM
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    Exactly.. I should make this the golden rule for this particular tensioner/ pulley combination: If it fits, you're full of shit.
     
  17. Jul 27, 2019 at 9:50 PM
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    Yea you included those in the kit I bought from you. I also see snow has that VC50 controller and failsafe all in one. Wondering if I should just use that.
     
  18. Jul 27, 2019 at 10:01 PM
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    If you tell them how happy you are with your current set up and ask nice you could get the stage 3 controller for that price.
     
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    That controller might actually fit into the empty DIN slot.
     
  20. Jul 28, 2019 at 12:50 PM
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    @12TRDTacoma not to inflate your ego more :))) but where do we go to vote this thread of the year?

    I reviewed my data from the dyno finally. Was seeing 410g/s max... so I dunno, I should have been seeing more power? That puts my personal "horsepower factor" at about 0.96. I would say it's a combination of the following:

    1. Parasitic torque loss to spin the blower. Could be up to 40lbft to do so at 14-15psi, according to the charts I have.
    2. The airflow is restricted in all manner of ways, before blower and after, and at the valves too.
    3. Tune (yeah, yeah, go ahead and make fun of my UCon if you want to).
    4. Unfavorable weather (easy to blame, just like blaming the sound guy for a shitty sound when we play shows).
    5. Degrading rings leading to losses from extra blow-by. It does give off smoke near redline, sort of a middling greyish smoke that smells like burnt gasoline (not oil or coolant) - which I always attributed to richness, but could be blow-by I suppose. Will probably do a compression check in the near future to see what's up.
    6. Blower needs a rebuild.

    Let me know if you have other ideas.
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2019

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