Best remote start?

Shit I forget. Someone on here tho.

 

Best? Easy, 12v Solutions

 

Edit: Was it Jeremie? He pre-flashes them too to make them future proof. Sorry confused you for a Glendale, Arizona package that went out today..let's do this, take a picture of the module so I can make sure you're getting the right harness adapter for it at the very least. If it works, great, if it doesn't I'll take it back, no 25% restocking fee. You would just pay the return shipping (normally around $10). No harm to foul, worth the shot to try it. I'm willing if you are. I can't be sure if you bought it from someone who bought it from Amazon (no guarantees they flashed it to be future proof) or from Jeremie. If Jeremie (Audio Solutions), I can guarantee you'll be good. Joe Schmoe, let's try.

 

Better phrased as "Best? Easy, The brand they're both selling us, Same $hit" HA! I can't knock that, I'd be knocking my own hardware lol!

 

@N2DesignsInc setup was pretty easy. Had issues with the instructions being a little confusing but youtube walked me thru and,made it easier. And just in time for the FL heat.

 

Glad to hear it!

 

^ He gets it

Ask yourself this, without the remote start, were you not going to start the vehicle anyways? But now you're coming to one that's cooled off for you, significant other, pets, in-laws, perishable groceries, etc in the summer, and warm n toasty cabin, heated seats and defrosted windows in the winter. So what's the problem? The starter cycle life argument has been debunked. So I'm still waiting on someone to come up with a reason to back up this minor detail (that mind you is a Toyota thing, not remote starter - 3rd party or OEM if applicable on all Toyota/Lexus PTS vehicles). You won't find one on this planet that has bypassed this feature.

 

I’ve had the 12v solutions with the phone option and it been great.

 

How has this been debunked? Just curious on the literature. Also, 15 minutes isn't enough imo to cool a vehicle down.

 

It is. Middle florida summer, no shade. Truck is cool in under the 15 minute window. I know cuz i start it when i leave work and when i get to the truck over a quarter mile away, its nice and cold.

 

It was 100 in PA on Friday and I started mine for 5 minutes and 29 seconds. It was quite cool.

 

Where in PA?

I have a @N2DesignsInc.
Awesome customer service! Easy to install. Just works.

 

SE

 

I guess az is different. I have dark limo tint and fitted windshield sunscreen. Still super hot. I'm curious about these starter cycles though.

 

Your starter will outlast you, your vehicle's engine and 4-10 generations after you. I don’t know if people realize the number of cycles it’s life can handle. In the 90’s it was around 50,000 cycles. Today, especially because of auto start/stop technology on some vehicles having raised the bar on robustness, you’re talking 500,000 to 1.2 million cycles! You do the math of how much, on average, you start your vehicle per day. At 3 times per day, that’s 167,000 days to 400,000 days, or 457 years to 1096 years (the year 2476 to the year 3115)! Your engine would’ve been replaced quite a few times already if there is even any metal left on the body/frame, and we’ll be able to remote start vehicles by just thinking it by then, if we're still using automobiles by then!

And say down the road the starter did need to be replaced, what are we talking in terms of added comfort over the years? $150-$200?

So let me ask you THIS, with all that aside, you still have to come into your vehicle and start it right? And without the remote starter, you're not coming to a vehicle that has given you the mentioned amenities when you do start it.

I am not sure why this bothers so many folks...I truly would love to know why it is a deal breaker over having some of these luxuries...but I could never get a good answer that doesn't come back to starter this, starter that.

Idling for a long time is not typically good for your engine. We've tested how long it takes to get the engine temp to nominal and AC to cold (using Pacific South West/Arizona 120 deg) and Heater to Hot in the north-most part of Canada in subzero temps, each time, it took 7-10 minutes to reach temp WORST case, most of the time less...where do you live where it's not enough time? Just curious. Get your system checked, something isn't right with your HVAC system if it can't get to temp before 15 minutes.

As far as citation, this is based on looking up starter brands that are used by OEMs, then looking at the number of expected cycles. Look at both vehicles WITH auto start/stop and not. OEMs don't put different ones if a make/model is the same, but one has auto start/stop and the other does not. I'm in the automotive industry as well as automotive manufacturing as I design and program assembly lines and robotics for manufacturing plants and have been handed many products to sample robotic lift load, such as frames/chasis, automotive fasteners, airbags, any part on a vehicle assembly (aside from assembled engine, however engine components yes) and many starters as well. I don't want you to take my word for it, I want you to dig into it because even if I cite one thing, that's one of many, we can all google, so I don't want to appear biased. I have not "documented" it. It was merely research, looking at a spec sheets, and calculating expected life based on rated cycles on those spec sheets. Anyone can do that. You know now where I lean so even if I cite something, would you then believe me? Because I can, but then the rebuttal back can't be that the source is someone else's opinion. Spec sheets are the straight source to debunking, they don't post those in the write-ups I've seen...

At the end, do what makes you happy...but make sure for the right reasons and not because it's a trendy argument. I respect all opinions, but not opinions spoken as factual. Let me know what you find, would love to see if I missed something.

 

No it's not. I've got dozens of customers in AZ, not one has said this. Would love for them to test how many minutes and chime in. Not trying to corner you, but like I said, something can't be right here. I mean it doesn't help to have a black vehicle with black leather lets say, because the cabin interior on a 110 deg day might actually be between 120 - 190 degrees depending on how long it was parked in a shady spot, or in the sun, color of the vehicle and ability to reflect back heat/UV (i.e. tint, car cover, window shade, etc). Get your HVAC checked. A vehicle that doesn't reach temp means the engine isn't reaching temp. Does it take 15 minutes, especially in the summer for your engine temp gauge needle to reach midway (Tacoma temp point for a warmed up engine) in AZ on a summer day? I highly doubt it. HVAC systems working properly should reach maximum cold or heat when an engine has been fully warmed up. Even in the dead of winter in Canada, their engine temp gauges reach "warmed up" temp in less than 15 minutes.

It may be that the air in your cabin even though ice cold is being heated through an exchange (trade/absorption) with your dash trim, seats radiating head etc...which means until the cabin interior trim and seats are cold, is when the air floating inside the cabin will feel cold. Also, make sure your vent is set to re-circulating and NOT pulling from the outside setting.

I have dark colored vehicles, live in SoCal and we get 100-110 degree days for a handful of days towards mid to end of summer...one vehicle is even 14 years old, cabin filter changed once, and frion never. Don't experience what you are.

If you want to extend the run time, you can always send the device (even though you didnt buy it from me) to me, and I can make it 20, 30 or even 60 minutes. You'll just cover shipping and return shipping. I won't charge you. I never recomend long idling because unlike the starter, I care about my (and my customer's engines) and because frankly, there is no need if the goal is to warm up an engine, and/or cool or heat an interior.

Since you like citations: https://ktar.com/story/2081242/how-hot-can-a-car-get-parked-in-phoenix-sun-what-about-the-shade/

 

The interior of the truck usually hovers right at 140*. After 11 or so minutes the AC is ~72*. For another 4 minutes it just doesn't make a big enough difference IMO. The truck is still hot and you're better off just getting in and driving, flowing air over the condenser. Where it actually does work well though, is getting out of an already cool truck and restarting it to keep it cool. That's a good point on start/stop vehicles! I just wish we had some hard numbers on it, not an opinion. Though it does seem feasible. I do need to get a smart start module from u one day, though.

 

Not a problem brother, we'll be here when you're ready to not melt (or I guess in your case, only semi-melt)!

 

With remote start does your truck automatically start the AC in hot weather or do you have to have the AC on when you exit the car before the remote start?

 

What ever u left it on last will be what it's set on the next start.