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+1 on the pivot...

 

Nothing. Didn’t mean to imply that.

It’s identical. Guides are where it all started. Codes are just the “HD” version.

 

I like the way you put it. Thanks again, gonna get to reading more up on it

 

They changed to the “bleeding edge” system a few years ago, and that’s about the simplest bleed I’ve ever done.
The Hayes Dominion system is easy as hell too, but doesn’t get the fancy snap port.

 

The roscoe 8 is better equipped in the drivetrain but I’d say the stache 5 is more “upgradeable” because of the rear hub spacing. Personally I’d go stache 5 over the roscoe 8 unless your plan for the bike is short term.

 

When I upgraded from my 2x10 XT rear/SLX front to 1x11, I got SRAM GX. The shifting is amazing. But then, it is new (well 6 months now) vs a worn 3 year old group, so that may be a big part of it. But I'm curious about the brake comments. My 3 year old Deores aren't great, despite frequent bleeding and pad replacement. But I've stuck with Shimano because I always seem to make a mess when I'm bleeding brakes and would rather spill mineral oil than brake fluid. What is about the newer SRAM brakes that makes people say the bleeding is easy?

 

Magura MT4 on the singlespeed and Formula R1 on the Hayduke

 

Thoughts on the Roscoe 6?

 

So damn simple:

https://youtu.be/DRt-CP2l474


I have done Shimano, Sram, and Magura. Sram is now the easiest. They all work great when done right depending upon model/level.

I have 2016 Shimano Deores on my hard tail and 2016 Sram Guide Ultimates on my FS. The bleeding on the SRAMs is so simple. Best to wear gloves as you do lose some skin from the DOT fluid. Mineral oil does weird stuff too though. More challenges on the Shimano but not rocket science.

However, the function of both is very good and I like the feel of the Shimanos for XC. They are more on or off where as the Sram has some modulation?? My FS sees park and steeper stuff and the adjustability is nice as they play such a big factor in the descent. Higher end Shimano has similar adjustability (XT, XTR).

Both great brakes with no complaints either way. Sram did have warm weather issues with the seals in the Guides early on but you can send them in for warranty replacements. I did. No problem.

 

Here is my FS for reference. Fun bike. Tube and pump store inside frame. No stock parts besides dropper.

Industry Nine 305’s are nice.




My hard tail with my daughter’s hard tail after a recent NICA race. 12 years old and kickin’ A$$ in muddy upstate NY races. Glad we put the Maxxis Forekasters on before that race. I did the pre rides in Ikons and it was sketchy.

 

@mcharfauros

I have a few Treks... when looking at a 27.5+ hardtail, I looked at others.
Ultimately went with the Salsa Timberjack SLX. Right noq, the pricepoint is bang on.
The Roscoe is great, but, what really turned me OFF was the rear axle.
That saud, look at the Salsa TJ, Specialized, etc... ride them. Amd pick the one you like.
The Roscoe is a good bike. It was fun to demo. The Stache... ugh, still kick myself for not snagging that.
The Salsa TJ is simply versatile, playful, well equipped, and a deal

 

@Chasespeed Thanks for the rundown and sharing your experiences. Really appreciate the feedback, as I get going here.

 

i would never buy/use brakes based on how easy or hard the bleed is, even the hardest is pretty damn easy right? I agree the sram brakes can be sent in for warrant replacements like the rest of their components but they never seem to have the integrity of other parts and their levers feel "cheap" for lack of better verbage IMO. I have TRP's on my DH bike, and I would say the front brake requires a lot of maintenance but iI love the fact that they don't feel like light switches ON or OFF and I can modulate them with more precision. On my trail bikes I have single piston XTR on one and double piston non-series OEM shimanos on the other that ask for no help. the last pair of guides I had on an XC bike last summer/fall were fast to be replaced. awful lever feel, faded every ride... I put the rear guide on my DJ bike because it is barely necessary to have a brake on it.
Not to be a hater, I just cant ever get to jive with sram brakes... I still feel like juicy's and BB7's were the best brakes they made.

 

TRP’s, Hope, whole ‘nother level. Code, Guide, Level are really great. XT and XTR are great... for the common man.

They really are not all easy to bleed. For novices bleeding is not even possible. Granted bleeding any of them for the right person is pretty straight forward.

I would love a set of TRP’s. I do know that Shimano and Sram feel very different.

 

That NICA stuff is so cool. I helped coach a New England team (not officially NICA) when I lived up there. I wish they had something like that when I was in school

 

I have a BOX Drivetrain!! Works just as well as any big S drivetrain.

 

An immature art critic would say that photo shows that your bike makes you.... happy.

 

How does it compare price wise?? I have seen Seth’s Bike Hacks on YouTube using box components but he’s also sponsored lol

 

If I wasn't a cheapass and only bought shit used I would definitely buy Box stuff. Their warranty is dope

https://www.boxcomponents.com/warranty

 

Good to know. They’re relatively new, aren’t they??