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Thanks!

 

I gotta give a shout out to @Discount Tire

My wife found a nail in her tire on monday, before she had to be at work. I told her to go to the local America's Tire down the street, since I had a good experience with them when I got my Falkens mounted.

They got her in, and repaired her tire within an hour, and she only ended up being a few minutes late to work. She told me they were very nice and helpful, and was very happy with the experience that made a potentionally very frustrating situation very easy.

This was at the America's Tire in Pasadena, on Colorado. Also, If there's a better thread to post this in, I will, but this is the only thread for them that I know of.

 

I just wanted to stop in and say thank you for this thread. This thread is how I found out about the periodic eBay sales and scored a set of P285s on the cheap last year. Yeah I drive a Canyon but this forum is full of useful info that translates to other vehicle brands (and we're eventually buying a T4R). So thanks!

Ohh and to add to the thread, I ran the P-metrics for 8K miles and replaced them with LT285s thinking I had the "balance issues" mentioned here and in the other thread on Wildpeaks. Turns out I have a bent rear axle shaft. The Wildpeaks were not the cause of my vibration. That's good news to me because I really like these tires and they have not let me down despite punishment off-road.

Metal Masher Trail, Moab - LT285/70/17 E @17psi on DV8 OffRoad 887 17x9" wheel

 

I need some help. I'm looking at these in the 285/70/17 but its werid. There site says that size in the load c is 62lbs 32.8 inches but the tougher load e is less weight at 59lbs and slightly bigger at 32.99. Why is the heavyier ply tire less weight and bigger. Thinking going load e since its lighter and bigger lol

 

The C-load version is a new addition. It's funny because I've had the webpage open as a tab on my tablet for almost a year now because I am constantly referencing it. I called Falken last year asking a similar question about the 275/70/17 C and why it was almost the same weight as the 285/70/17 E as that doesn't make sense and the person said the website info is correct. So weird. Unfortunately I have not seen any reports of actual weight on the 275 to see if it jives with the website info.

While the C may weigh more than the E I would consider the ride quality difference. Generally speaking a C is going to ride softer than an E and if you don't need an E load for towing or off-road protection then the C may be a better choice for a light truck.

Maybe @Discount Tire can do us a solid and confirm the weights on the popular sizes (275/70/17, 285/75/16, 285/70/17 etc). If the weight is even the same between the C and E I would spring the for the C next time I buy.

 

Don’t really know that this helps you but at the time I bought my tires they didn’t have the c ply option in 285/70r17 so I went with the c ply 275/70r17 and I can say they claim that they’re 57 pounds and if I remember correctly mine were within about a pound of that. Love them so far and sitting beside a set of the 285’s it’s pretty hard to tell a difference

 

When did they come out with the 275/70/17 C rated tire? I had to settle for a 265/70/17 SL rate.

 

Well, they list my P285/70R17's (SL) at 50.5 lbs. Not sure about the C load, that's really weird. Should be close to the P (SL)'s of the same size.

 

As far as weights go we get our information from the manufacturers. We show the 285/70R17 E load rated A/T3W as weighing 59 pounds. As JC Mentions the E load rated tires tend to have a robust carcass, but different construction materials can influence weight, regardless of size.

Thank you for your comments. Here are the weights we show as per Falken Tire 275/70/17 C 58 pounds, 285/75/16 E 61 pounds, 285/70/17 C 62.8 pounds and E -59 pounds.

We don't have a date when they came out with the C rated 275/70R-17 but it looks like we had some arrive in June.

 

I’m interested in xl 265/65/17 because they are lighter then the 265/70/17 and I’d rather keep the shorter tire because I pull a boat often and don’t want my gearing to become taller if that makes sense

 

We have the Falken Wildpeak AT3W XL tires in stock ready to ship. We show the weight as being 43 pounds each.

Falken Wildpeak AT3W XL | Discount tire Direct

Let us know if you want to order a set.

 

I emailed Falken the other day and didn't get the answer I wanted.

I asked them why their 285 70 17 C's are heavier than E?
Response - "Part number 59000350 is an OEM tire for the 2020 Jeep Truck Gladiator Rubicon. I am sorry for any confusion. We are working on getting this tire out of the replacement tire section from our online page."

Then I replied to them stating that they didn't answer my question.
Response - "The tires are not the same. An OEM tire is not the same rubber recipe compound. Just as the same tire size by another tire manufacturer would not have the same weight."

I replied again stating that their explanation isn't clear and doesn't make any sense since C's are normally lighter than E's. No further response.

At this point, sounds like Falken customer service reps are kept out of the loop and are giving canned responses. I don't think we will never know "why" or "how" their C's are heavier than E. All we know is that it was made for a Jeep

 

I’m a tire builder at the plant but not in the PCR department. However I can imagine being a few differences. The diameter is different on the tire according to the listing. Besides the compounds being different which can effect weight, there could be plenty of other differences. The ply FP could actually be different, resulting in more weight. Also the angle could effect weight as well since they have a belted ply. They also could a bead with a larger apex to give a softer ride. Also may use a larger/thicker sidewall on the carcass. That compound could be different too resulting in added weight as well. The beads could also be wrapped vs non wrapped. That won’t add a lot of weight but may account for something.

I’m curious to look at the green tire weights on our lot sheets when we build a Dunlop tire that is the same as a Harley OE. I’ll have to remember to snap a pic of each and compare. However being motorcycle they may not vary as much or maybe not at all.

We run a lot of different tires and unfortunately don’t really know what exactly we are building unless we happen to see them cured out. But I do know 2 numbers in particular that happens to be a Harley as a regular Dunlop. It’s a bias ply tire, not a radial however. I know the innerliner and plys are interchangeable. I believe the beads are the same as well. There is no sidewall as it’s a blackwall tire. So the only difference would be possibly the tread. If not just the tread marking for identification and the press molds that brand the tire Harley-Davidson.

 

I actually asked the same question a couple days ago and they emailed me about it fast. He told me the load c tires in the 285 it was a lot heavier because it’s a factory tire on the new jeep gladiator‘s. He said that truck from factory is made to go off road so they had to make the tire specially for that truck and a little more heavy duty. He said the load e tire in that 285 is a slighter bigger tire but weights less.

 

Sounds like a great combo for those needing off-road prtoection but want the ride comfort of a C-load. Assuming the compound isn't compromised as a lot of OEM spec tires are.

 

I wish they would've told me that. If it's truly for the sake of the Gladiator's weight, then I'm okay with it.

At this point I'm just not so sure I want to get their 285 in the E load. I wasn't a big fan of KO2 E Load in the past. Definitely don't want 62 lb C loads either. Decisions decision.. Maybe I'll go back to KO2's.

 

I'm willing to bet it's a typo and the 285/70R17 load C are actually 52 lbs rather than 62 lbs. That would make more sense and fall in line with the P285/70R17 which is 50.5 lbs. Anything that size that's close to 60 lbs is load E 10 ply IMHO.

 

Actually it's not a typo. I've been emailing Falken back and forth. The C's are definitely 62 lbs due to the fact that it's made for the Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, which is supposed to have a beef'd up frame.

 

FYI - Falken just updated their website. Looks like there was a discrepancy with the weight of the 285 70 17 E load. Now they have it at 63 lbs or so. It used to be 57/58 lbs.

 

I wish I hadn't read that....