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6-Speed MT - Clutch Depressed

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Sippi, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. Aug 13, 2019 at 7:53 AM
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    Before I take the truck into the shop I wanted to see if this is something that I can adjust. I just purchased a 2017 Sport with the 6 speed. The clutch is lower than what it was in my 08 and didn't think much of it until I noticed that the cruise control would not come on (after purchase) and figured out that the clutch was depressed enough to make contact with the sensor. With that being said the truck drives fine but I notice that I can pull the clutch up with my foot which it then shoots up but their is considerable distance between that point and where it typically resides.

    My question is if this can be adjusted and steps to look into.

    I did search and did not find any relevant material.
     
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    pretty sure @MOC221_ did this in his truck
     
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    It sounds like you might have air in the lines? Does the clutch stay down every time or just some times?
     
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    It does stay lower at a point when compressed the clutch is engaged. It functions like normal but definitely not at the height that I am use to with my previous Taco. If it wasn't for the CC not functioning I would think the clutch was naturally less traveled in this model.
     
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    You might just need the adjustment that @Shellshock is talking about. Search around for the 3rd Gen Service Manual. It is a big, indexed file with most all of the factory service info in it including the clutch pedal set up.

    Also, take a peek and verify that you have the big clock spring installed. It sounds like you might not be the original owner and the PO might have removed it?


    I have an accumulator hatred, so this might be of interest to you:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/mt-accumulator-delete-mod-adm-and-bs-thread.568303/
     
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    I saw the big clock spring is installed and when I nudge the clutch pedal up the spring engages and brings it fully up. From the fully up position to where it normally sits is a fair amount of distance maybe 4-5 inches worth with no resistance between the two points.
     
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    Whoa. From your first post, that is what I thought was going on. From your second, I thought it was just a small distance. Thanks for clarifying!

    I am surprised that your clutch is working well with that much reduction in travel. You can see master cylinder and the end of the piston. Is it traveling with the clutch pedal when you have the free play or is it staying down? In other words, do you see a gap between the pedal and piston? I am not sure if the design allows for that, but it is a bit difficult to diagnose over the internet.
     
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    The piston and the push rod has a gap between the pedal when the pedal is fully raised. It looks like the push rod has an indention that corresponds to a groove in the pedal. Not sure if there should be a pin or some type of connector or should the hydraulic pressure push the rod up to the pedal.
     
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    There should be a small gap when at rest, which should also trigger the switch so that your CC works. This gap ensures that the throwout bearing is unloaded. Also, too large of a gap and you will hear a click everytime you use it.

    Unfortunately, I don't have a complete view of the problem. The best advice would be to check the set up from the Service Manual. Maybe @MOC221_ can shed more light if he had this problem in the past.
     
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    I was referring to a different gap. I will take a photo during lunch.
     
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    My 1st gen Tacoma had an adjustable push-rod between the pedal and the piston in the clutch cylinder. It had a 12mm jam nut at the pedal connection. Have they changed the design? If not, that jam nut could be loose and the push rod has screwed itself into that bracket that hooks to the pedal.
     
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    I tightened up that nut as it was loose. After looking at it and working with the large clock spring it adjusted and now is situated where it should be. I am guessing that they replaced the clutch pedal assembly and didn't adjust it correctly as I completed a test drive and is located similarly as to where my 2008 was. Thanks for all of the help guys!
     
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    Nice effort.

    :cheers:

    You can add yours to the growing list of problems that happened after a pedal swap was done. Just ridiculous.
     
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    This a purely my guesstimate unless the original owner has been driving the truck that way. Keep in mind I just bought it on Saturday and has 36k on it. :shrug:
     
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    Congrats!

    You might see witness marks on the clutch line fitting or a second impression from the reservoir line clamp to verify if it was swapped. That is the TSB procedure instead of just hitting it with quality grease (disk brake grease) to stop the squeaking in the cold.

    You should also be able to ask any dealer about the TSB work that was done in the past.
     
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    Great point, I looked at the carfax and if I remember correctly all TSBs were addressed but will double check.
     
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