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Wyoming B.S. Thread

Discussion in 'North West' started by Blackdawg, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. Aug 12, 2019 at 11:04 PM
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    So, I just noticed something that I found interesting. This photo really shows frame flex by comparing the bed lines to the cab lines. Obviously an extreme from a wheel position, but it's several inches of flex between the bed and cab. And this is with rear frame reinforcement (which I guess is all under the bed, so not really in play here).

    You can see it at the bottom of the bed/cab, and the 2" wide rubber door trim protector stuff - which is completely offset.

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Aug 12, 2019 at 11:19 PM
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    Some is the frame for sure. The bed half flexes a ton. The other is the body bushings though. It's a combination of both.

    Boxing the frame helps and additional cross members. You've done frame reinforcement so you're helping already
     
  3. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:04 PM
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    I never understood leasing. At least with buying you have value when you want to sell or trade in. With leasing you got nothing. Just give it back if you haven't exceeded the max mileage in the lease.
     
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    It's just like renting out a new house basically. You find someone to take care of it and the value it loses as a new vehicle leaving the lot and then when the time comes it comes back to the lot as a premium used vehicle (much easier to sell to someone than a new vehicle for obvious reasons) and the dealer has made even more money than from a purchase when the process is complete. Except it usually leaves three people happy in the process. The non committal lease "buyer", the dealers pocketbook in the end and the finance guy basically foams at the mouth over these, and the guy who gets the real deal and buys it off the used lot.
     
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    I guess I should have been clearer. I don't get the value to me as the person leasing (or renting).
     
  6. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:22 PM
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    There's only three, can't decide (non committal), can't afford to buy, wants to avoid maintenance
     
  7. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:27 PM
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    I would hope that there would be zero maintenance cost in the first 3 years. The other reasons are non sequitur.
     
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  8. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:37 PM
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    I dunno, I see a decent amount of warranty denials. It's very rare to have a dealer deny warranty work on a lease though because they have a vested interest beyond a repeat customer
     
  9. Aug 13, 2019 at 1:34 PM
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    Maybe I was fortunate with the corolla. 8 years and 83K and no warranty claims and only normal wear items like oil changes and brake pads. Maybe everybody should buy a Toyota.

    Maybe if you are buying a Dodge or a Chevy a lease makes more sense. :notsure:

    edit: I forgot about the takata airbag recall that was done at 75K.
     
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  10. Aug 13, 2019 at 2:14 PM
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    So you need thing I don't think you took into account on the math was insurance. Did you have full coverage on the runner and don't you have to have full coverage on the lease?
     
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    Thanks for the picture thread Mike, cheered me up, been miserable all day packing and loading the moving truck in 108° heat.
     
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    Not what I'm saying. What's the numbers difference between the two since you're on a basically fairly tight margin to make this work as is.
     
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    Yeah I think it would be interesting to see the results.
     
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    Swapped the fuse box over once I got home. Took I think 2.5 hours. Not bad. Fired right up. Amazing what one loose connection will do. Glad to have it back.
     
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    Are you comparing lease payments to the (estimated) cost of depreciation and interest, or how is this math working? Guessing a Carolla doesn't deprecate as fast as a lot of other cars, and therefore would be harder to come out 'ahead' in a lease, even for a short term.
     
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    Who cares about monthly cost if at the end of the lease you have nothing, and after 3 years of making payments you would have equity in it? Sounds like you're not looking at this the right way.
     
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    You're entirely wrong. :luvya:

    Forget the 4runner. You need to compare the cost of buying vs leasing the Carolla.
     
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    I love this thread, you guys are awesome.
     
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    You're welcome man. Is tomorrow the move day? I hope everything goes smoothly.
     
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