2nd gen coil springs question

Has anyone tried to use stock 2nd gen coil springs on their first gen double cab? I have a set laying around from my old truck and just ordered 5100s. Wondering what kind of lift I could get for free.

 

Will not fit unless you cut and weld. Center pin location it different.

 

Just to clarify I'm using 1st Gen 5100s. Wouldn't just the springs be compatible? Since aftermarket springs such as eibachs or the ome can work on either gen.

 

what part number is this that is used in both gens?

 

You're talking front coil springs right? I think the other guy was talking about rear leaf springs.

 

You must have seen a new OME spring that no one else has ever seen, then. They are different. If you're talking about front coils, sure, they'd probably technically work, but they are also designed for a completely different track that weighs a good clip more than a 1st gen.

 

The toytec eibachs. 112-620-P

 

I've edited the post to clarify. I did mean the front coil springs. My apologies

 

So, yes, they'll likely "fit" but as I said before, they're made for a heavier vehicle. Look at the wheeler's link below, the OME 2883's seem to be the same for the 1st gen or the 2nd gen (based on part numbers). However, unless you have a v6 with bumpers and a winch, I'd avoid the 883's like the plague for your truck. They'll be too stiff. These have essentially the same specs, both 883s, although I'm honestly not sure if the coil diameter is the same for both trucks. It's likely "close enough", but as said, it's going to be stiff...

 

Good, getting somewhere. Did you noticed the notes it provided for 1st gen tacomas when using these springs as well as what kind of lift it will provide?

 

Yeah, it looks like around 1.5" difference. I was wondering if anyone has tried it to get some real information. Given the spring rates on the oem coils are different then aftermarket lift coils

 

Yes, but he's asking about stock 2nd coils. He's just using those eibachs as showing that 1st and 2nd gen coils are (more or less) compatible.

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Bottom line @Velociraptor4x4, since you have them laying around for free, slap them on there and see if the ride is to your liking. Just take before/after measurements so you know what the lift actually is. Going over 2-2.5" and there's several other things you need to worry about (alignment, CV angles, etc...)

Since those eibachs give a 2nd gen 1.6" lift, and a 1st gen 3" lift, if I were a better man (I'm not, lol), I'm guessing you'd get like 1-2" lift from the stock 2nd gen coils.

That said, that's literally no different than just cranking up the pre-load on your 5100s using the stock 1st gen coils. In both methods, you're "lifting" it by just making the spring stiffer.

 

That's kind of what I was thinking. I'll have to measure a coil when I get home to see if they're physically longer then the 1st Gen ones. Not sure how much it matters but the 2nd gen coils are off a 4cyl regular cab. I'm aiming to be right around 2 inches

 

Right, I'm getting there. I try to follow a thought process so they understand the 'why'.

 

I wasn't just looking for just height changes but also how it may ride. Hoping someone else had tried it since I couldn't find much in searching.

 

pretty sure the 4cyls do have lighter coils.

 

Oh for sure. I see lots of threads where people ask almost this exact question, but it's not because they have a free parts laying on the floor in their garage. I see "looking to buy new shocks, will Tundra shocks fit?" or "will this bumper fit?" threads fairly often. IMO, it's usually going to be a waste of time and money, and it's not like shocks/springs from a much larger truck are going to perform better.

If the parts are free, sure, go ahead and give it a shot, as with the OP, but if you're buying parts, just get the ones designed for your specific truck. Only exception I can think of is the Tundra brakes.

 

Does anyone have a 1st Gen coil spring from a v6 laying around they could measure? I got roughly 14" when I measured the 2nd gen spring