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Fox Life!!! Anything Related to Fox Suspension

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ThaiChillyTaco, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Aug 12, 2019 at 5:15 PM
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    go2cnavy

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    I’m a lot heavier. Bumper, skids, sliders, winch, and 33’s. 14” 600 lb coils. No complaints.

    I am riding around with a bed full of firewood in addition to all of my weight and 14” 600’s are just fine. I think 650s might be okay, but never anything more than that.

    Edit: I was skeptical at first after reading posts of people with super heavy springs. After talking with @*TRD* at @AccuTune Offroad, I went with 14” 600s. After running this setup for a year, I sent them back to Accutune and they updated the valving to fine tune the system to my needs. It only cost me shipping, which was super cheap.
    I highly recommend you buy from them. They always respond. Are always available. And they really know their stuff.
     
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  2. Aug 12, 2019 at 5:17 PM
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    Looking for some help. I just finished installing a set of FOX-883-02-025 combined with SPC adjustable UCA's and I'm having trouble balancing my ride height and preload. As it sits now I have 2.5" of threads showing for preload and a spring length of 10.75" at full droop. This gives me a ride height of 21.5" on the driver side and 22.25" on the passenger side. From the @AccuTune Offroad article I shouldn't be going any less than 11" on the springs and after contacting Fox they told me that max preload was 2.5". My truck has full Aluminum skids and a hidden winch mount with winch. I was hoping to be able to adjust these to achieve 23" hub to fender but now I'm wondering if I will need heavier springs to achieve the 2" lift I was looking for. Let me know what you guys think.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2019 at 9:32 PM
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    Yes, you’ll need the 14” 600 coils. Maaaaybe 650, but I bet you’ll be fine with the 600’s.
     
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  4. Aug 12, 2019 at 10:32 PM
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    Where you guys buy you're fox at I need the fronts with adjusters Extended travel
     
  5. Aug 13, 2019 at 4:49 AM
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    What does a 14” 600# coil change, wouldn’t there just be less preload adjustment before the coil gets bound up. If I’m thinking about this correctly (which I might not be) there is a fixed amount of space available for a spring to go. Lets say for example 12”. If I put a 13” spring in there, the spring compresses some to fit but if I put a 14” spring in there it will have to compress more to fit. This will bring the coils closer together and if both springs are 600# springs wont they both oppose the same amount of weight causing the truck to sit at the same height but with less room between the coils on the 14” spring.
     
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  6. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:14 AM
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    You are correct that the 14's have a taller block height than the 13's.
    However the 14's have more travel and can therefore support more weight and take more preload before reaching block height.

    Max Preload = (Spring Travel) - (Shock Travel)

    As you can see from the equation above a spring with more travel can take more preload, and more preload means it can support more weight.


     
  7. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:45 AM
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    I just got my kit and having it installed on Monday. Been reading through and there's so much good stuff here!

    For the 3rd Gen owners, about how much are you seeing these needing to be adjusted to get about 2" of lift (no extra weight)? Have you all been seeing about 1" in the factory setting?
     
  9. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:05 AM
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    yeah, factory setting is about 1". you'll likely need to crank these up to 20 threads showing, or possibly to the max(24 passenger, 27 driver) to see 2" on a stock third gen.
     
  10. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:54 AM
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    Thanks for the heads up! I was reading that with the extended travel I get 0-3” versus 0-2”, so hopefully it’ll work out just right.
     
  11. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:00 AM
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    @RangerComa thanks for the help. At this point I'm going to call @AccuTune Offroad and talk with them about whether a 600# or 650# spring would be better for my application.
     
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  12. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:03 AM
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    You’re going to want to be at 2” over stock maximum. The stock third gens are an inch over stock second gens, with all other suspension components being the same. So the second gens can go up 3” and the third gens only 2”.

    The number to shoot for: on level ground, middle of hub to fender measurement of 23”. That is the max recommended lift for 2nd and 3rd gen Tacoma’s. You’ll start to run into cv axle and control arm ball joint problems if you go any higher.
     
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    Good choice!
     
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    Perfect, 2" is exactly what I was shooting for and with the "extended travel" I should be right in the sweet spot!
     
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    From what I remember from my communication with Accutune, the 14” springs require, at minimum 2” of preload (Not threads showing, but actual compressed spring length). Why does this matter? Because it will determine your minimum lifted height.

     
  16. Aug 18, 2019 at 10:21 AM
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    Currently running FOX 2.0 rears w/resi. Might possibly be making a purchase on some 2.5 rears either without or with DSC’s. Looking for some feedback from people who have made this same purchase.. or possibly jumped up from 2.0’s to 2.5’s. Any personal reviews?
     
  17. Aug 18, 2019 at 10:25 AM
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    From what I was told, the 2.0’s are crap compared to the 2.5’s...and that’s from multiple vendors. With that said, I love my 2.5 with DSC.
     
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  18. Aug 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM
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    I’ve had my 2.0’s on 2 trucks and for about 2-3 years. Don’t really have anything to compare them to besides stock. My fronts are 2.5’s without DSC’s. But I’m considering 2.5 rear with DSC’s just to be able to make the adjustments under load etc... of course I don’t know a damn thing about adjusting them so class would be in session.
     
  19. Aug 19, 2019 at 1:04 AM
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    Unless you’re super heavy with armor and gear, 2.5s are overkill for the rear. 2.0s have an option for adjusters.

    https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/size-tacoma-4runner-shocks-need/

     
  20. Aug 19, 2019 at 1:24 PM
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    Yes I agree there a bit overkill.. the only added weight I have is a HC rear bumper. But when I camp I have a family of 4. Truck gets some gear loaded and have it full of tools Monday-Friday. Figured I could get a better ride and I’m not the biggest fan of the resi design on the 2.0’s. I’ve had one get damaged by the top hat and not really looking to cut it for clearance for the resi line/fitting.
     
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