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I agree. The 2.0 gives me anxiety. I’m constantly worried it’ll rotate on its own and the line will break. I’ll be swapping them for something different eventually because of this.

Edit: also dumb question incoming but can you just swap the rear shock on the ground with the weight on the truck?

 

Yea. You would think the design would be changed but nope. Lol. But I’m sure there’s plenty out there who are fine with it. Whenever I go off-roading I always check the rears when we stop. I shouldn’t have to lol.

And if you were to swap the shocks without the rear being in the air those shocks would have to be compressed quite a bit. I think it would be worth it to just jack it up vs the trouble.

 

2019 2wd SR5 with FOX 2.5 RR DSCs. and zero added weight

what are people running on theri HSC and LSC adjusters for on road driving.? any recommendations to start at for my particular vehicle setup?

i read the Accutune article linked above in previous post. It mentions how LSC is important to on road handling and HSC more for offroad, which makes sense.

my question is what direction for the LSC compression? and should i run HSC completing turned out?

 

If they are torqued properly, they won’t rotate. I’m normally at 1 click closed from fully open on the rear. I had 300 pounds of firewood in the bed last week and added 2 clicks. It road like a dream. The rear of this truck is over sprung for an empty bed.

 

I have the non LSC 2.0’s.

 

I have a custom set that Accutune building me. If you check my posts in this thread by using the small arrows in this box, the specs are there somewhere. 10+ inches of travel.

 

I’ve heard the opposite from people who have gone off road with them (not saying you don’t).

It’s not worth the risk for me. I’d rather just swap them out and have the peace of mind.

 

Unfortunately, no. Even when properly torqued some will just rotate.


Best habit is to include it with the visual inspection before a ride every morning.



And do the adjuster question, I believe I'm running 5L-8H. I'll check my notes

 

^^ 100% disagree. They don’t move. The only way they move is if something twists them. It’s nearly impossible for vertical motion to create the rotational force required overcome the moment of inertia (twisting in this case) if they are torqued properly.

Something could contact the reservoir and twist the body, but that is also unlikely.

 

Nothing you say will change the fact that people have reported it to happen. It seems possible. Rough washboard roads maybe vibrating it making it rotate? Maybe it was installation error like you claim. But it’s up for debate and that alone naturally makes people anxious about it. There are other shocks with better design. We have legitimate reasoning to be concerned.

 

It's not really a matter of opinion here bud. Yours might not. And that's fine. But that doesn't mean none of them do.

I pre-inspect my truck before every ride because we go 200 miles into the back country and the closest next human being is 160 miles as the Crow flies. After every trip we check for cracks, tears, fluids, and torque everything after cleaning.

I've also battled the Dakar squeek and had my rear end taken apart and put back together a handful of times.

Some rotate. Even when properly installed.

 

Are any of you positive that the shock rotates or is the issue from the movement in the bushing as the axle cycles? There is movement in the shock that if not installed appropriately, will cause contact with the mount.

 

Yes. The shock moves. I've put it back at least a couple dozen times. I get out on some form of a trail almost ever other weekend. It has to be rotated back to the fitting doesn't sheer on the mount.

 

And we can drop the whole installation and set up comments. Foxs instructions have always been about as straight forward and easy as can be.

REAR - INSTRUCTIONS
Medium-strength thread-lock (blue Loctite®) is
recommended on all bolts.
1. Please read the installation guidelines
for instructions on how to properly lift
and secure the vehicle.
2. Remove rear wheels from vehicle.
3. Remove the stock shocks. (Do not
discard lower bolt as it will be used
with your new FOX shock)
4. Connect the Fox shock to the top
vehicle mount with a stem bushing
and washer on top and bottom, hand
tighten. For remote reservoir models;
make sure passenger side hose is
facing outward and toward REAR of
vehicle, driver side facing outward and
towards FRONT of vehicle (Fig. 6).
5. Connect Fox shock to the lower mount
using factory bolt. Torque to factory
specifications.
6. Tighten top locking nut until 5/8’’ of
total stem is showing.

 

Mine had a torque spec of 25 ft lbs I think? I don’t remember it specifying which way to point the hoses either. I wonder if I got some generic instructions. It was the little Fox booklets.

 

24ft-lbs is the front spec

 

I have 65K on my truck. I’ve went through a set of Icons and two sets of Fox with reservoirs before I was happy with my set up. I don’t beat the shit out of my truck, but I also don’t baby it. In fact, I think I may have the shittiest roads possible for my daily commute. What I’m trying to say is, my suspension gets worked hard every day. And although I was very skeptical at first having read some of the horror stories, I’ve never had even the slightest movement. But every bolt gets torqued to specs every time I wrench on my truck.

@desertjunkie760 Nobody has a positive answer for everyone. @m603holden It is a matter of opinion. I say they don’t move if torqued properly and not lubed to prevent squeaks. You say they do regardless of install measures. So let’s explore the topic though professional and courteous discourse:

Although highly unlikely, it is plausible that the shock can move on its own. If we assume that the shock moves, then it doesn’t matter what brand or version of shock one purchases. What matters then is the (1) mounting position of the reservoir and (2) valve body attachment location of reservoir to shock body.

If the shock moves there is potential for (1) damage to the reservoir because it will turn with the shock if mounted to the shock (i.e. contact with axle, springs, inside of wheel or tire depending on size/offset)
(2) damage to the elbow/hose on shocks with the elbow located by the upper body mount

So if the shocks do move on their own, we’re all screwed unless we buy a shock with a non-fixed mount reservoir with a mid connection point and a hose long enough to mount the reservoir in a fixed location far away from interferences.

Neither Fox 2.0 or 2.5 with reservoirs are a option if you assume the shock moves.

EDIT: not necessarily a torque spec as I stated above, but rather a “squish factor” that I don’t recall at the moment
@AccuTune Offroad what are your thoughts?

 

This is what I used I must’ve just been misremembering. Ignore me then. Lol
http://4x4media.info/instructions/fox/605-01-110.pdf

 

It's not a matter of opinion. They move. It's not a thought, a feeling, A guess... . I physically reach under there and rotate them back periodically to clear the perch. Not sure what you're not understanding here.

The stud has torque spec. The bushing for my specific shock per order of fox is to not compress more than an 1/8th inch. With both met, they still do this. Glad yours didn't. It because yours don't, doesn't me othes automatically follow suit.

 

Yup. And I actually referenced the wrong bushing spacing earlier. I printed out all the pdf for my parts and keep them with my maintenance folder at home. Specs obviously differ according to part number.

Here's mine.

http://pvg-portal.ridefox.com/_cont...603.751160840.1566351195-527295321.1566351195