1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Speedytech7, May 31, 2018.

  1. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:33 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    My welds yesterday were pretty bad, I tried a 90 degree bead and I dropped the steel on the floor. The bead actually broke off intact, meaning there was zero penetration.

    I'm just following the chart on the door for the thickness of metal I have.
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  2. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:35 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Look away from the door chart of failure. Crank the heat up and wire feed down if your not getting penetration.
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  3. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:36 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    How can you tell if you're getting good penetration, it's that discoloration of the metal on the opposite side, correct?
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  4. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:39 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    How do you figure out the right wire speed and heat without looking at the chart, seems like it would be completely arbitrary choosing a combination until you get it right.
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  5. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:45 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    That doesnt mean much. I can turn the heat way down and just concentrate on one area for a while and it will turn colors. The flatter the weld, the more its burning in. You dont want a really raised weld bead ideally.

    This is hard to describe so Ill do the best I can. But when welding thicker metal, you wanna be able to see the base metal being carved out on the edge of your weld puddle, its hard to look for. Just gotta slow down.

    As for selecting settings without using a chart, use your eyes and ears. A good weld will have a unique sound to it, with no sputtering. A weld with good penetration will be flat across the top if its a fillet joint, a low raised hump is fine for flat joints. Start with your heat high and your feed low, then bring the wire feed up until it sounds right and is easy to control.
     
  6. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    I finally got a functioning regulator for it so I'm starting to practice again, Miguel gave me that 60cf tank of Argon so I've been using it as shielding gas. Works just as good as C25.

    Also, how do you determine what flow rate to set the regulator to? I have it set to 25 CFH. The is pretty good, it's the one I've been running.
     
  7. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:48 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Welding indoors= 15ish cfm
    Welding outside or near a breezy door= Crank it up, then get frustrated and move indoors.
     
  8. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:48 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    Good advice, thank you. My welds are relatively thick, and those are the ones that broke off. They're not nice and flat.
     
  9. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:49 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    For breezy conditions I figured you'd just use flux core.

    I don't miss the flux core, it's so damn messy with so much spatter. I'm getting zero spatter with the solid wire.
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  10. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:51 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    How low can you go?

    That's not a pun, I swear.
     
  11. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:53 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Heres some welds on my bumper. 1/4" plate fillet welds. Nice and flat with a slight high point at the begining and end.IMG_20190901_175019476.jpg IMG_20190901_175047653.jpg

    And the shackle I tig welded on. This weld is actually concave, as I was welding way hotter than needed. IMG_20190901_175033739.jpg
     
  12. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:54 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    Why not TIG the whole thing?
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  13. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:55 PM
    Sperrunner

    Sperrunner UA342

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2018
    Member:
    #245334
    Messages:
    50,230
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Miguel
    El Cerrito, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2023 Ford F250
    Its the company truck
    Same
     
    GQ7227 and Running Board Man like this.
  14. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:56 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Time. I did one shackle and cut the pieces at home then burned the rest together on 2 30 minute lunch breaks at work. I tig welded some sliders once. Took forever, was burning 7018 rods towards the end of it.
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  15. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:57 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    Why is TIG slower than other processes?
     
    Running Board Man likes this.
  16. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:57 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    Only Argon, or do you use C25?
     
  17. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:58 PM
    BartMaster1234

    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,867
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    You TIG?
     
  18. Sep 1, 2019 at 2:59 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Youre manually adding the filler wire. I suppose some could go fast, but it takes me a few minutes to weld a 6" bead and have it look like I was being paid to do it. A lot of finess, and you can get out of practice real quick.
     
  19. Sep 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    I dont do the foot pedal thing. Scratch tig is what they taught at my school. Just set the desired amperage and roll with it. I tried the footpedal once (at a job interview nontheless) and failed miserably at it.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2019 at 3:06 PM
    Blue92

    Blue92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228071
    Messages:
    16,478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Sport
    Never learned aluminum. Any aluminum that needs welded at work, which is hardly ever, gets sent out.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top