Any negatives for the manual transmission

Maybe. I think mpg is ok for what it is now. I only fill up every other week or so.

 

Same here. About 11day per fill up.

 

Controls for an automatic 4R.

 

I'm just trolling a bit with that one. While the Taco isn't going to compete with he grunt of a Ranger even with a tune, I'm sure it's a lot more bearable with a tune. My 2.7L twin turbo V6 Ecoboost Fusion Sport was pretty neutered off the line with the factory tune, too. In the case of my Fusion it was for drivetrain protection (the 2.7eb is a torque monster), but I can tell Toyota did an equally awful job tuning the Taco.

Thanks. I eventually figured out that the 4R and Taco aren't as similar as I thought they'd be. It's strange that they call the multi-terrain version "A-Trac" in the 4R and "MTS" in the AT Taco, while the MT Taco only has the On/Off version, but it's labeled "A-Trac." Confuse much, Toyota? I wonder why the MT doesn't have the option to select different terrain modes. Also, why not just call it "A-Trac" on all vehicles that have the simulated locker?

 

I love turbos and yeah, an NA 3.5l is not going to run with a modern 2.3T. I am okay with that. Still at just over 7sec to 60, I have no complaints with the Taco. It is only 0.1sec slower than the 1st Gen Raptor.


One thing that I found with our turbos in the past is that they will hold open the wastegate at idle. This made any torque need off of idle difficult, like pulling out uphill or getting up my ramps gently.

Installing a manual boost controller on a very weak setting will close the wastegate and give a lot more right off of idle. The game is the first setup where you increase the setting to where it throws a code, then back off a touch. I don't know if this will work for the Fusion, but some forum searches should confirm it.

Note that this will not increase max boost or have any other effect than getting some good torque right at idle with no ill effects.

 

I believe the FJ Cruiser also had A-TRAC.

 

They did. Both Automatic and Manual transmission.

https://youtu.be/xGWkPezHwfE

I believe only the 2014 FJ had Crawl Control if I can recall.

 

I guess it only applies to 4 runner. Only MT taco gets a trac. Toyota is confusing us all as always.

 

I was working with a guy to get one of the first tunes on the Sport. Tuning an ecoboost is a very different animal. You don't actually tune for boost. You tune for "desired load" (more or less calculating total air mass) and that parameter will determine how much boost the electronic wastegate will give you. So if it's cold out, I'll be running less boost on average than if it's hot, all else being equal. With a tune alone my Fusion would get all four tires fighting for traction. That's with a slushbox 6sp auto trans brake boosted launch. If boost at idle were the goal, all you have to do is tell the computer that's what you want. Granted, it already has on/off turbos because they're so ridiculously small so you don't wait long for gobs of power. The Ranger appears to be equally responsive to tunes.

 

Ah. My experience was with vacuum wastegates. Regardless, having them closed and ready at idle was a big deal for me.

Yes. Most all cars today are tuned for torque limits based on sensor input. This is where flat torque curves come from. It makes them predictable, but less fun than playing with peak power.

Little turbos have their benefits. Less fun than a single big or sequentials, but more in line with DD life.

 

One would think they'd be less fun, but the way it squats the rear and mashed you into your seat at such a low RPM when the turbos flick on is pretty enjoyable. It's not as fast at the big end since the turbos kinda peter out at high revs, but going from idle to well over 400 ft/lbs in a blink will get most people to smile.

Also, I *think* there are some EB tuners that tune based on the boost parameter, but the guy I was working with wanted to do it the "right" way. Apparently tuning for max boost required some trickery that he didn't like for reliability reasons. It was actually quite a bit more work doing that way because he was fighting to get my tables to cooperate. I'm not a tuner, so I can't get into the details, but I'll say this: I fucking love tiny turbos now. My 2.3 Turbocoupe had a T3/T4 that was loads of fun as well. They are very different animals, but they're both animals nonetheless.

Edit: Sorry. Back on topic now.

 

Here's a snip I grabbed from a TFL 4Runner video. This crawl ratio SHOULD make the MT more bearable. Lol

 

Pfft. This is a BS thread now that the OP was answered over and over.

All turbos are fun. Boost taper is just a compromise that has to be made since these are no long the widowmaker days of the Porsche 930.

Yeah. You want to stick to the OEM scheme because of the specific outputs, open decks, and other things that were not around back in the day. I do miss the spool and hit of torque as well as the glorious sounds of it happening.