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Brand New Dobinson Suspension lean

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by PmahoneyNW, Sep 5, 2019.

  1. Sep 5, 2019 at 6:47 PM
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    PmahoneyNW

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    Dobinson's 2" Lift Cooper Discoverer AT3
    Two weeks ago had the dealership install a full Dobinson's 2" lift on my 2nd gen and now the driver's side is now leaning over an 1 & 1/4” lower than the passenger side.

    The dealership has no clue what’s causing it saying they installed everything correct. My truck had little to no lean prior to with stock coils and 5100’s prior to Dobinson’s.

    Any ideas what's going on here?

    ***Update - something is up with the body of the truck, suspensions looks to be 100% accurate*** May make sense to delete this thread as it could be misleading?

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  2. Sep 5, 2019 at 11:21 PM
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    If people with the products from the same company have this problem you might be able to warrantee, refund, have them redo it, etc. Because that’s not acceptable from a product or service stand point.
     
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  3. Sep 6, 2019 at 12:32 PM
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    Are these adjustable coilovers? If so, may have too much preload in one coilover than the other. Easy fix, but I would take it back to the shop sooner than later and have them fix it.
     
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  4. Sep 6, 2019 at 12:43 PM
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    Check to make sure they gave you the correct springs and shocks. You should be using the C59-221 shocks for standard travel or C59-220 for extended travel. The extended travel shock preloads the spring more and raises it another inch.

    One of the coilovers could be missing a washer in the stackup as well.
     
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  5. Sep 7, 2019 at 12:51 AM
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    Can’t help you, but that doesn’t look right!
     
  6. Sep 7, 2019 at 12:56 AM
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    Go back to who did the work...
     
  7. Sep 8, 2019 at 6:33 AM
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    I looked at their 2" kit on line. It comes with a 1/4" spacer that should go on the driver's side. 1/4" spacer gives about double that in lift due to motion ratios, to correct for what would be 1/2" lower due to more weight on DS. Having it on the wrong side would make for 1" higher on the passenger side (1/2 lower on DS to start with then un-needed 1/2" higher on PS). Outside of getting mismatched springs (unlikely) this kit does not appear to have preload adjust so there are not that many ways they could have screwed it up.

    The first set of pics you have it is not clear but it looks like the PS top hat is higher than the DS, indicating possible that the spacer is on that side. There may be other mistakes (coil not seated properly etc.) but first thing I'd check s where is that spacer. Anybody dumb enough to let this out of the shop in this state maybe you shouldn't turn your back on while they are fixing it, then never visit them again.
     
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  8. Sep 8, 2019 at 6:35 AM
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    alignment cam maybe locked up on drivers side, to where the A arm will not fully extend. just a wild guess
     
  9. Sep 8, 2019 at 8:14 AM
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    I ran into the same thing with my C59-448 springs. I ended up installing a 1/2" spacer on the drivers side and now it is within 1/16" of the passenger side.
     
  10. Sep 9, 2019 at 11:12 AM
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    Lean??? Looks like a collapse lol any updates?
     
  11. Sep 9, 2019 at 11:55 AM
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    Your dealership probably put the driver's side coilover on the passenger side, and vice versa. I'd start with who installed it... And something about the passenger side coil orientation that looks off...
     
  12. Sep 9, 2019 at 12:00 PM
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    Well, it's level with the roofline. You have the same guy do the install?

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    ;) Seriously though, that's not right and, as mentioned above, the 1/4" spacer is probably on the wrong side. These trucks have a natural DS lean thanks to the fuel tank, battery, and driver all being on the same side of the truck and it requires some compensation to get a level stance.
     
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    Check the rubber mount on top of coil. Mine was all cracked and dry rotted within a couple months. I can't tell if you have one or not
     
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    Dobinson's 2" Lift Cooper Discoverer AT3

    That spacer is an optional part in the kit that I didn't go with so I don't believe there is one installed on either side but will double check. Thanks for the info!
     
  15. Sep 9, 2019 at 1:55 PM
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    So these two rubber pieces do look really different on each side, the passenger side has it hanging out and the driver's side is flush and you cannot really see it unless you look underneath. Also tagging @ajpagosa as this may give you a better view as well. Thanks for the help guys. coils.jpg
     
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  16. Sep 9, 2019 at 2:20 PM
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    Interesting, was it sitting as low as mine? Just doesn't seem right to have it sit that low....
     
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    OK looked at these pics a little closer and the new ones. Something is very wrong with the passenger side. In your earlier pics which I only noticed now, first post, last set of pics note you measure the height of the top nut off of the top of the strut? The passenger side is about 1/4" higher (less threads showing). It looks like if there is not a spacer in there something is jammed up on the PS not allowing the nut to be fully torqued down. This might act as a spacer IOW, or I guess something could be missing on the DS under the top hat, allowing that nut to be TQ'd down further. Also are these progressive springs? Because it looks like the progressive end is on top on the drivers side (closer spaced coils) and on the bottom on the passenger side.

    Whatever is going on at the very least both struts should be disassembled and make sure everything that is supposed to be there is there, pointing in the right direction and fit the way they are meant to. As someone said earlier those rubber spring seat things on top are meant to cup the spring ends perfectly, so maybe that was messed up passenger side and why it is hanging out and adding lift on that side. It also looks like maybe that rubber thing is actually missing on the driver's side, which would explain why the passenger side top strut nut isn't as far down as on the DS.

    Hope you get this sorted soon.
     
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  18. Sep 9, 2019 at 5:19 PM
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    I did notice that my alignment cams are in two pretty different positions, does this seem normal? Dealership said truck was within alignment specs but of course didn't give me paperwork after said alignment. alignment cam.jpg

    I believe they are progressive. Will take a closer look at the coils to make sure they were installed right side up. The rubber thing is there on the driver's side it's just flush and hard to see unless you get more underneath it. Thanks


    Also here are just better pictures of each side.

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    if you have the alignment printout you can check the numbers
     
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