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No power, no codes

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 97tacomaguy, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:21 PM
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    jbrandt

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    He kinda said both.

    To me, "no power" means it's not accelerating.

    To me, this means no slipping when shifting. Which makes sense because you're off the gas when shifting, so less likely to see/feel any slippage anyway.



    my money is still on the clutch, especially since he's got over 200k on it.


    Ok, so when you say it "doesn't have any power" is the motor reving but it's not accelerating? Or when you step on the gas, the RPMs don't budge.
     
  2. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:23 PM
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    A little bird is telling me to tell you that you might want to check your fuel pressure... this little bird is wicked smaht too. Free to borrow the kit from Auto Zone. He said he doesn’t get the impression your clutch is slipping.
     
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  3. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:23 PM
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    ditto...200k on a clutch is a good long life. Better than most get, some manage to eek out more but at 200k combined with the symptoms I'm reading, my money is on the clutch.
     
  4. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:25 PM
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    Don't say that! My truck rolled over 200k last weekend and as far as I can tell the clutch is original.:lalala:
     
  5. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:26 PM
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    I've seen some people on here get in the 300k range but it seems they do mostly highway driving and easy commuting...if I get 100k out of my clutch I'll be happy lol.
     
  6. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:29 PM
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    I really want to stick a borescope in there and see. This truck has had an interesting life so I really have no idea what shape the clutch is in. It could be really good, or it could be on the last shreds of material. Runs great though!
     
  7. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:29 PM
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    People say they get 300k out of their balljoints and timing belts, too.

    Doesn't mean I'd try to push it that far.
     
  8. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:33 PM
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    plus with a clutch you can't really push it further than it's willing to go...once symptoms like slippage start happening it's a short matter of time before it's just going to kaput.

    I'll probably replace mine before any signs of failure just to ensure I don't get a clutch failure someplace really inconvenient. I need a heavier duty one anyhow to better handle the weight and trail conditions. Stock clutch feels about as grabby as mashed potatoes when you're working with heavier tires and what not
     
  9. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:46 PM
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    "..Ok, so when you say it "doesn't have any power" is the motor reving but it's not accelerating? Or when you step on the gas, the RPMs don't budge."

    Motor is revving but not acceerlating...like in neutral. but with a little pull.
     
  10. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:50 PM
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    Clutch. If you stick your head undee the truck, does it smell like burning?
     
  11. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:55 PM
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    Does the clutch engage from a stand still when the pedal is just about all the way out? Your description sure sounds like a worn out clutch to me. 200K is close to the end of a clutch life.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:56 PM
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    ugh that's the worst, most depressing smell ever...burnt clutch.

    Every now and then on the trail it's impossible to avoid, and all I can think when it happens is 'there goes 10k miles off my clutch, one step closer to a $1k+ repair bill'
     
  13. Sep 19, 2019 at 4:59 PM
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    No burnt smell. Clutch engages just as it's always had.
     
  14. Sep 19, 2019 at 5:02 PM
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    My dad likes to tell this story when he and my mom were younger. They had a mid 60's VW bus. My dad was following her in their other car. They come up to an intersection with a major road on a hill so they have to wait a bit. After not that long the bus releases the magic smoke.

    Turns out my mom was holding it there by slipping the clutch because she didn't want to have to start from a full stop. :frusty:
     
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  15. Sep 19, 2019 at 5:02 PM
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    We had a guy who destroyed a clutch in a single day. It was a brand new 3/4 ton chevy. Still claimed he knew how to drive stick.

    Still had work to do with that truck that day, so after we kicked him out of the cab I got to drive it. I'm pretty sure I smelled like burnt clutch when I got home.
     
  16. Sep 19, 2019 at 5:04 PM
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    I don't have high hopes. I think maybe if I slip it in the boot around the shift lever I can work it across to the other side and maybe get a shot of the friction material? I dunno. Worth a shot.
     
  17. Sep 19, 2019 at 5:06 PM
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    haha, you caught me right before I deleted an incomplete thought.

    But yeah, hate to say it, but you're likely on borrowed time.
     
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    Count me in on the clutch bandwagon IF RPM is rising in a disproportional rate to MPH............

    Clutch slip can start moving and cruise ok if gently used. Put it in 3rd at about 2500 RPM and mash the gas. RPM rises rapidly and speed putzes? Clutch.
     
  19. Sep 19, 2019 at 5:42 PM
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    In my observations most people ride the clutch too much. They rev up to 2000 rpm then slowly let the clutch out. Particularly in reverse they do this. The better way is if you're on a level surface rev the engine a little then just bump the clutch and press it back down then let the vehicle glide backward. If you need to reverse farther or up a hill, then try to quickly fully engage the clutch at 1000 rpm and very lightly give it gas to speed up. Same going forward. You want to fully release the clutch at as low an rpm as possible around 1000 rpm. It's not always possible on steep hills or carrying loads but something to strive for. There is no set lifetime of the clutch. It all depends on how you use it.
     
  20. Sep 19, 2019 at 5:47 PM
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    Will try the the new MAF tomorrow.

    Original owner... Been driving clutches for 39 years. Had one go out in a Corolla many years ago...didn't feel like this. The consensus seems to be clutch but i am still hoping for something cheaper.
     

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