The Official Gym & Fitness Thread

Morning 4am lift for 5/3/1 week of dead’s. Hit 510 for 5 which is a new PR. Breakfast/preworkout meal consisted of oatmeal, pb fit, cinnamon and 6 pitted dates.

 

I was going to say what @broke_down said in terms of taking a look at trying to correct your gut bacteria because it sounds like it's off.

When I first started having GI issues with my autoimmune condition I was told by a naturopath the same thing that you just bombard your gut with healthy, good bacteria, to the point where you have symptoms from the probiotics then you taper back a little bit.

I used primarily probiotic cultures recommended by her and my physician. They were initially like billion cultures. I could take them until I had symptoms and then I would back off, improve my diet and then slowly taper off them. I still take them every few days.

Lack of fiber is probably why you have sensitivity to some of those foods. Just slowly start incorporating more fiber and you should start seeing a difference.

Can I go on a mini rant please to pile onto this?

Being leaner really isn't all that difficult. It's not.

Food does not bring happiness. Stop thinking it does. Food is a means for your body to get what it needs to survive and thrive. It's not happiness, it's not sunshine, it does nothing to fulfill you emotionally.
It drives me nuts when people say "but I just love..." look we all like shit that's bad for us, the issue is fucking moderation. You don't need chocolate cake every day of your fucking life. Once every few months *GASP* is probably better. If that makes you sad, well you have a sad fucking life.

Pick those dreams and those goals that genuinely matter and eliminate all things that make achieving those dreams and goals more difficult. It really does suck because our society is so focused on food, and not just food, but horrifically unhealthy food. Foods laced with sugar, artificial sweeteners (of I would like to get @broke_down s opinion on), chemical additives and preservatives, and premade products that are nearly entirely devoid of nutrients. These foods are addictive and cater to convenience. But it's your responsibility to realize that work around it.

You can eat incredibly good food and still have it be healthy and loaded with quality nutrition. It's just a matter of learning how to cook and what to cook. And learning to cook in some people's cases.

But I like how people act like the body type you want is hard. It's not hard, it's just a matter of changing habits and to STOP placing this enormous value on fucking food. You want to look hot nekid or do you want a fucking pastry? Pick. And that doesn't mean you can't ever have a pastry you just can't have them regularly. Like I don't get it, does eating a pastry really fulfill your life past the 5 minutes it takes you to eat it!?

It's all habits. So just focus on changing the habit.

Decide what you want today, and just do it. Decide that you are going to do it, and do it.

I found in my own personal journey of trying to work through crazy ass GI issues and had to change nearly everything I was used to eating (which is good I was eating like shit) I realized 60 days seems to be the magic number. Commit, no cheats, no rule bending, no excuses, 60 days. Do it. The temptation and desire really stops.

Giving that level of importance to food makes the task seem a lot more daunting that it is.

More carbs are not the answer.

but LMFAO at thunderbuddy.

 

Few things - will come back to gut..

Can't like this enough about food. The other day someone asked me what I'm craving and I said chicken Alfredo... They looked at me weird, no chocolate, no cookies, what??

Fuck Idk just want chicken Alfredo ok LOL. I have lost my craving for foods due to the fact of this reason, it's just fuel... It's just gasoline for your car. Yes getting 93 octane is great sometimes (like a poptart or juicy fat steak or that damn chicken Alfredo), but typically you can't afford 93 often and neither can the results of your body. This is why we stick with 87 majority of the time.

Also, I actually laughed out loud at the NAsupra

 

People are always comical when it comes to the subject. Work was selling $.50 donuts earlier this week. People were going nuts. I just keep walking.
People act like you have superhuman capability to walk away. What?
“Oh I wish I looked like you but I love donuts too much”
Its like can you repeat that back to yourself and listen to yourself as you say it so you can hear the nonsense I hear.

I think it also goes back to something @broke_down said too. One persons normal is another persons hell. I think some people genuinely don’t understand they feel like shit all the time because of what they eat because its been so long since they felt good.
I physically feel different when I eat shit food, so it has got to be really worth it. I literally feel a donut in my joints.

 

@Supra TT had a couple beers last night and weighed in this morning at 157 lol

 

Some could say beers to you are donuts to others. It’s just fuel. Your body doesn’t need them.

 

For sure. His donut is beer lol. My weakness is just seafood. I see food.. I eat food... Lol

 

Oh I’m totally aware of that. I made my decision to start limiting my consumption and I’M DOIN IT! Lol

 

Ill be working all afternoon so this is my brunch to hold me over till dinner

 

182 this morning. Been practicing my form on dead lifts. Hoping to get 400 again but cleaner than last time.

 

I will say it’s fun watching and googling all the proper ways to eat. Keto. No keto. Carbs. No carbs. Fast. No fast.

It’s totally understandable how people get swayed into a diet that doesn’t work and then give up because of how overwhelming it can be.

honestly in the end it really just boils down to portion control. Calories in vs calories out.

dang nutritionist have their work cut out for em these days

 

Only people work or don’t work not diets.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat so many types of approaches are effective.

 

Wrong. Food literally effects the strongest reward pathways in your brain. We eat because its a near euphoric experience.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3124340/

 

I’ve read that before. Just like they say sugar can have the same temporary effect as a drugs and that’s how it becomes an addiction.

 

These are not that addictive, unless its sugar or MSG. Anyway, the artificial stuff counter intuitively stimulates your body to make more fat and will probably be linked to horrific health outcomes as long-term data becomes available. Keep drinking diet-coke, guys, I know you will die early because of it, the question is how early?

 

When we start discussing dietary issues, people like to oversimplify the difficulty of making these changes. I have a lot of sympathy for folks who are very over weight and trying to loose it. The hormonal signal to eat increases proportionally with the number of fat cells in your body. @PackCon doesn't have enough to understand what hunger is, but like most Americans the stimulus can push the limits of their physiological capacity. People manifest drug seeking behaviors complete with the post-high remorse, and unfortunately quite a few become so ashamed and depressed they commit suicide. I met individual who was in-patient at a hospital I work at with this story. All self-worth gone.

@PackCon, be nice. Its not as easy for most people as it is for us.

 

Preach!

 

Also... what did y’all look like before being 10% and below BF? Who was naturally skinny from a young age and who was a bigger body type? Not saying being fat is genetic. But what our parents stuff into us as children has an impact on our growing and some of us had to battle being fat from a young age just to not knowing better and being fed fast food and soda as a kid.

it seems so easy to be lean and skinny but I don’t think that’s the case for most of us.

 

Oh man, Im about to go for a run, and like a fking drug, I cant resist answering this question!

I'm gonna show some discipline and answer this after my run. spot RESERVED. Spoiler alert its all linked, full on circle of life stuff.

OK, here we go...

In short, obese parents give birth to obese babies, which are raised in a social environment where obesity is encouraged, and thus being obese is ingrained both physiologically and psychologically at developmental stages for both, making it exponentially harder for these individuals to overcome. The cycle continues as these people have families and so on and so forth.

Your mother's fat, and dietary lack of control, prompts your fetal body to develop in a manor that is accustomed to obesity. (Pregnant women, and women wanting to become pregnant, need to see a nutritionist.) These changes effect how your body is formed, and how your body will respond to diet and exercise throughout your life. Because diet and exercise are intertwined with mental health, it inevitably effects who you are as person - from your personality, to psychological diseases like depression, your ability to focus and thus your perceived intelligence. We have mechanisms in our body that will allow us to have different responses to the same stimuli, some people keep getting fat while others get skinny doing the same things. For the sake of simplicity, I will leave it at that. The mechanisms that dictate which response our body will have are determined during our fetal and infant years in a very pronounced manor, hence the issue of fat people having fat babies. Quite literally, your DNA is covalently modified to biased your body to one response or another (the sequence of your dna is not altered though). This can be undone, but it takes a super-human effort, and very high tolerance to a kind of suffering that many people dont quite grasp - your body thinks it is dying, so imagine that kind of discomfort. If your mother is fat, you will forever be predisposed to being fat and all the psycho-social issues that come with obesity.

Your mom and dad's microbiome is also rapidly transferred to you. If they are unhealthy, have dietary restrictions, indigestion, etc etc, you will 100% have these too, and it likely has nothing to do with genetics. In fact, aside from a handful of exceptionally rare cases, we don't know of any "fat" genes. All the talk about "its" likely genetic, has yet to be supported. I personally think that growing up with dogs can help, but there is no evidence for this, and I'm giggling as I write it, so don't take it too seriously. The issue with the microbiome is that its very hard to change. The most successful techniques revolve around taking the equivalent of a bacterial nuclear bomb, and then swallowing pills filled with the shit of healthy people to repopulate (or re-poop-ulate) your GI track. Its surprisingly effective. People who have BMIs in the 40s will drop into the 20s in a couple months having changed nothing about their diet or exercise.

Amplify all this by your body's fat screaming bloody murder every time you are have the slightest sense of hunger, and the obesity problem becomes clear.

At somepoint, someone has to break the cycle. For all you chunky folks that are determined to make the change, I understand what is happening. I may not be able to relate because I haven't gone through it, but I do not doubt that your pain and struggle is as real as anything else in life. Feel validated.

I have a lot of techniques that I tell patients to use, most of which find a successful concoction to get them through. It starts with making sustainable changes. Not necessarily changing everything at once, but little steps like if you tend to slam a family-sized bag of chips at night, buy the smaller sized bag of chips. Get a dog and walk it for an hour every day - if you cant do it for yourself, you will do it for the only creature that loves you in spite of all your flaws. And then, once a pattern of making changes has been established, work on things like the types of exercise, very specific nutritional things like timing and content, etc. No matter what, always be positive, even when you have a cheat day.

Guys, I'm sorry for the lack of detail, but hopefully the salient points have been made. It will take writing a book series to get all this information put together. I'm happy to address more in further detail.

 

To all the fat homies who are reading this... don’t be afraid to comment and speak up just cause you ain’t jacked like the others. I been at this shit for about a year and still learning every single day. From 220 to 180. 5’9.