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1st gen 105 amp bolt in alternator.

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by chagovatoloco, Sep 21, 2019.

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  1. Sep 23, 2019 at 1:18 PM
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    I know a guy that uses a winch on the stock alt and doesn't seem to have any issues, and he wheels it pretty hard. Just a thought
     
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    I have a stock alt and 6 year old standard size lead acid battery and haven't killed either yet in my winching adventures. I've never been STUCK STUCK where there was a ton of load on the winch though, usually just small pulls to get over obstacles where I can't get the traction needed to get rolling :notsure:
     
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  3. Sep 23, 2019 at 2:54 PM
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    Yeah, that is my thought as well. I still want to do the big 3 just to have headroom should I need it later. I really just don't want my wires to be the bottle neck for amperage. It's no big deal if my alt can't keep up with the winch (just a dead/low battery), but it could be a very big deal if my wiring can't.
     
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  4. Sep 23, 2019 at 2:57 PM
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    yeah that's what I'm wondering. If the stock wiring will be ok with this 105 amp alt.
     
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  5. Sep 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM
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    I know that. As I said, I'm planning to do the big 3 with my STOCK alternator.

    There's no disadvantage to having too big of wires (no matter what size alternator you run). There's a very big disadvantage to having too small of wires (they tend to catch fire).
     
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  6. Sep 23, 2019 at 3:07 PM
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    this could be easily solved by looking at the gauge thickness and length of the stock wires but I'm not currently able to look at that right now
     
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  8. Sep 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM
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    If it's anything like the headlight wiring, the gauge being used even in stock configuration unnecessarily limits the current that can pass thru the system. One of those "goodenuff" scenarios. Goodenuff for people who don't add a bunch of accessories that use a bunch of electricity.

    I'm just operating under the assumption that the stock wiring is at best "adequate" for the stock alternator.
     
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  9. Sep 23, 2019 at 4:59 PM
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    When running a winch, it's just done for a time, so hooking it up to an auxiliary battery and drawing from that, should be fine. But truth be told wheeling is new to me, so we'll see when I get my winch how this plays out.
     
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  10. Sep 23, 2019 at 5:07 PM
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    An aux battery setup isn't really necessary. It's pretty complicated and expensive to do it right. People have been winching on single battery setups for generations.

    The wiring I'm talking about doesn't affect the winching per se, since the winch draws directly from the battery, but the big gauge wire and the big alternator can re-charge the battery faster, meaning you can winch for longer without killing the battery or overheating the small stock wiring.
     
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    Another thing that might be worth working out would a high idle switch.

    I like how easy this swap is. Itll be a tough decision between this and the jag alt.
     
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  13. Sep 23, 2019 at 7:13 PM
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    I guess for some it may be, I've done many dual battery setups with a continuous duty solenoid and its pretty simple. But I've seen many were people over complicate it and I like the emergency back up. But no, it's not needed.

    Upgrading the wire for a 105 amp is not needed, but not a bad idea. I might do it just for that little extra.
     
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    As near as I can figure, the factory alternator wire is a 10 gauge. According to powermaster the minimum for a 100 amp alternator is 8 gauge so I may do that. Screenshot_20190923-213851_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
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    you should be able to make 8 gauge fit in the factory loom if you really wanted and keep it factory looking
     
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    I probably will, I don't want the engine to look like spaghetti.
     
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    the harness is simple to remove if you wanted to do it that way. 2 bolts at the bottom of the block, wires at the starter, wires at alternator. then fuse box
     
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    Good find. Gunna have to get on it before the these alternators price skyrocket lol
     
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