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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Sep 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM
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    Trying to keep the fluid cool wherever possible?
     
  3. Sep 26, 2019 at 2:39 PM
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    thinking about adding oil coolers comming off each tube also....jk :rofl:
     
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  4. Sep 26, 2019 at 3:30 PM
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    Far from home, long distance/ multi day trips, leaf springs for high speed stuff like the extra weight (so I’ve been told), more weight out back makes shock performance more consistent with varying fuel weight.

    As for a standard style floor jack, why not? Other than space that is. You don’t use your hilift or bottle jack when at home do you? (Maybe for special cases) Just makes doing trail repairs that much easier
     
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    To add, Floor jack is also going to be safer. No worries about slippage on jacking surface. That can be a nice creature comfort when making any long repairs, and not simply trail fixes. You can also jack from a lot more places on the truck with a floor jack.
     
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  6. Sep 26, 2019 at 3:47 PM
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    Hmmm that is interesting I didn't think about that, good points. Didn't even consider how the suspension would react. No real high speed stuff here at all.

    If you guys can use the jacks then that's awesome. Our trails make it very improbable to be at a place you could use one.

    Yes much safer I agree 100%
    Make some "natural" jack stands or use your tire. That's what we do in case something slips.
     
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  7. Sep 26, 2019 at 4:01 PM
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    Hell's yeah bruhhh. Everytyyme I leave the truck I disconnect that thangg and clip it to my oversized carabiner and take it with me into the mall... or the supermarket. Ain't nobody gonna steal mah rig from the food4less parkin' lot anytymme soon. Anywone that doesn't have one a' them is not firing on all cylindars. :laughing:






    Full disclaimer of my previous satire. I don't have QD steering wheel. :p
     
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  8. Sep 26, 2019 at 4:03 PM
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    I wouldn't unless you have a cage or something inhibiting your ingress/egress in case you were in an accident. Would make a pretty good theft deterrent but most car break ins are smash and grabs. Gotta also consider your state laws regarding a horn. Here in NC as long as you have a button that's easily accessible by the driver you're good.
     
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  9. Sep 26, 2019 at 5:10 PM
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    So spindles rear diff and tie rods will be overbuilt on my truck - basically the one is none thing since it’s often I could be 20 miles of dirt and 100 miles on pavement to the closest place to get another similar tire or two. The jack with an extension really is helpful when there’s sand that a bottle jack would get wonky in even with a base plate.
     
  10. Sep 26, 2019 at 5:13 PM
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    The intended function is to make getting in and out easier. One less thing to get in the way when climbing in a vehicle with cage door bars and high seat bolsters on fixed seats and things like that. Lots of people do it to try to flex or for the look
     
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  11. Sep 27, 2019 at 6:31 AM
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    I carry two spares because on a multi day trip if you get a flat the fun's over and you're looking for a tire shop. With a 2nd spare the fun isn't over yet. I also carry more spare other parts for the same reason. But for some Murphy's law the part that breaks is the spare part I don't carry.
     
  12. Sep 27, 2019 at 7:49 AM
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    Exactly this.
     
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    Snow is on to it. You see two spares and 90+gallon fuel cells in the rear behind tires on serious prerunners and race cars because of inertia. having the extra weight out back helps keep the truck from getting upset in the big holes. A mid cell on any race car is generally a special order if you want it, and all shock tuners will tell you that they will not have the same top speed or stability in the big holes. I know of only one shock tuner that even says they can get a mid cell truck to work well in the big holes, and I know that it took them a significant amount of tuning time to get it to work well.

    However for most play trucks ill third Y2k and Arctic, 2 is one and one is none
     
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  14. Sep 27, 2019 at 10:40 AM
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    Somewhere in my library I have a racecar dynamics book which discussed front engine vs mid engine vs rear engine weight distributions. They had a special case for front engine, balanced front/rear moment arm vehicles (specifically the Porsche 944) which was the best for handling, and the hardest to build. So that makes allot of sense for a TT.
     
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    I’m getting ready to start my bed cage in the relatively near future and I’m doing some brainstorming. Was thinking I might like to hard mount the tail lights to the cage to be able to run the tail lights without the bedsides if i need to. Has anyone done this that has photos for ideas?
     
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    That's one of the best books, I have it too. There are a bunch of others. The best is actually getting to sit down and learn from those guys and those books are pretty timeless. To this day not really a whole lot of new material has come out about suspension design and theory and people still revert to those old books.
     
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    Sometimes I forget there's actually educational content in these threads. Any idea what the title of that book is?
     
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    If you want to build a drag car, Door Slammers, this is the quintessential book for them. I actually got to meet the author and take a weekend long class of his back some 20 years ago now (shameless plug).

    Seriously though there are tons of good ones:

    Chassis Engineering (this is probably the quintessential entry into this stuff)
    Race Car Chassis & Suspension design
    How to make your car handle
    competition car suspension
    Advanced Race car chassis technology

    These are all pavement pounder books though. I haven't really found anything that is offroad specific that would be as good as any of these. What you can do is take what your learn and develop an understanding then correlate that to offroad. Now there are a lot of things that are different in the way things react, travel, etc. That make it harder on you. But the basic principals and math is there you just have to figure out how to apply it properly.

    Dig through a lot of old Pirate4x4 threads the information is there it may take you a long time to find it but it's worth it, Same with TTORA and some of the other old school offroad forums that are a little more hardcore than here.

    Also look up BustedKnuckleFilms on youtube, Jake Burkey does some tutorials on there for 4 link design and shock tuning etc. It is just the basics but it's pretty good for what it is. This is Rock Bouncer stuff.

    Information is out there just have to look for it. Not that hard to dig through Google either to find stuff that may actually be helpful and correct.
     
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    This would be nice
     
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    It was one of the Porsche racing books. Written by one of the guys who drove 911s in Dakar and European road rally events. Let me see if I can find it.
     

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