Long range rifles

A few more pics.

 

Dig the gun, don’t dig the barrel burning. Kinda like makin the jump to nitromethane,.. yer gonna burn up parts

 

nice set up, how many rounds you shooting to burn up 2-3 barrels a year?

 

I’m guessin 2-3k

 

I'm changing them out at 1600-1800 rounds, which seems to be about average for hotter 6mm's. Rarely do you see a 6XC or something like that running past 2k. You get about twice the life with a 6.5, but you pay for that in wind drift and added recoil (important for spotting your own shots). The rifle itself has over 15k on it and has been flawless.

I had one barrel go out during a two day match, which is why I change them preemptively - my velocity dropped about 80fps over a few stages. With a bore scope you could see pieces of the rifling at the throat were missing. If I'm taking time off from work, loading up 300 cartridges, traveling the better part of a day, and staying in a hotel to shoot a match, I'm not going to risk ruining the whole weekend for another few hundred shots on a barrel.

 

Nice rifle!

I've been on the fence about what I'm going to chamber my new rifle in. I wanted to shoot my clubs KYL matches. 6.5 CM recoil is a bitch, especially for a 147 lbs guy. My buddies 6.0 CM is much nicer, but he's expecting 1,500-2,000 round barrel life. He's trying the 6.0 GT (I think that's what it its called?)
I may just stick with 6.5 CM and buy his used, but better, die set. I bought a MPA chassis, and a Longhorn action, and I'm out of funds, so plenty of time to think about it
So far NRL22 is more Chew budget friendly, of course you know, still far from cheap.

 

The 6mm Gay Tiger is a decent cartridge on paper - it's supposed to alleviate the hand loading, brass issues, and magazine feeding problems associated with 6 dasher. I doubt people will still be shooting it a few years from now, they will have moved on to the next bigger and better thing. I think it would take some serious marketing by a big name like Hornady to get that cartridge to stick around long term...several great ones have come and gone. But the trend seems to be going towards 22 cal, especially the 22 BR.

I've given up on the cartridge race. I found one that works for me and I'll stick with it until I have a really good reason to change.

If you are already setup for the 6.5, have you tried running 130's with a good brake? Inside of 800 yards a 130 at ~2950fps will out perform a 147 with regards to wind. And if you are shooting known distances, all you really care about is the wind drift.

 

Haha, I heard someone else refer to the GT as just that.
I'm with you on the caliber thing.
I just got in to mid range shooting this past year, so I'm still fairly new to this. Mid range at my club is 300-600. I may try long range next year.
Right now, my Savage LRP is my only mid range rifle, it's better than I am, so I'll leave it stock (no brake). If I go 6.5 on competition rifle, I'll try that! Our KYL matches are mid range, so only out to 600.

 

Originally the GT part was for George (Gardner) & Tommy (Jacobs), but even they will refer to it as the gay tiger.

I'm sure the LRP is great - lots of people take home trophies shooting savage rifles. The truth is most rifles out there are better than the shooter...if someone thinks their gear is holding them back, its just their ego talking.

KYL is tricky. The key to shooting those is spotting your impact and watching how the first few plates move and twist. As the plates get smaller, your hits just make the plate spin up and around and its hard to see what part of the plate you hit. Luckily they are almost always shot prone, so a heavier hitting cartridge shouldn't hold you back too much, given good fundamentals. Worst case, at 600 yards you'll have enough time to get back on target before the bullet impacts. Good luck.

 

Thanks for the info! I'll go watch a few KYL matches, I've been to one. The guys I shoot with are very accommodating and welcome new shooters, safe ones anyway!
Only issues with LRP is heavy big stock and no mag, the funky factory one is live a 3 rod hunting style. Plus, I need a new rifle right?!
Too late, like I said I've already started accumulating parts.

 

WTFYard
Over abundance of recoil with a 6.5CMorre?


Shoot 3Wn
Jusayin

 

Not from a pain or a physical perspective, but generally from improvised shooting positions, the recoil in comparison to 6mm short action varieties, makes it’s much harder to spot your own impact with a 6.5CR. We are taking about spotting misses from barricades and stuff like that, so you can correct your wind hold for the second shot. Again, in comparison to 6mm’s and 22 cals.

From a kicking-your-shoulder perspective, it’s not much at all. Barely different from a 223 Remington.

 

Just found this thread!

I picked up an entry level PLR this summer. I'm a lefty, and this is my first LH firearm, which I'm excited about. I got a savage 10 ba stealth. 26" barrel in 300wm. I bought nikon black single piece precision scope rings and a vortex viper pst gen II scope. The 5X25 50 version. This is the nicest thing I own - literally of all my possessions this is my baby. I even did the barrel break in procedure, knowing this is all voodoo woo-woo non-sense. I just love the rifle.

Any tips for new shooters that have developed a flinch?

The 300wm is way, way, way more powerful that the .270 and 22l I shot as a kid. I was fine until the bruise set in and I learned my trigger. My groupings were around 1" at 200 yards. Post bruise and learning my trigger, Im getting closer to 4" at 200 yards. And that is after a few trips to the range. I officially have a flinch. I bought a recoil pad, and I dry fire a lot between shots to slowly dissociate pulling the trigger with the kick, but I would really like to get over this soon so I can start shooting some respectable distances. I have access to a 1000 yard range, and I have yet to play on it. I'm still in the kiddie pool with my water wings on.

Thanks again to the OP for starting this thread.

 

Also, who hand/re loads here?

Shooting 300wm is $$. Im wondering what you guys pay per round for your hand loads and reloads. I'm currently buying bulk, but I'm interested in the full experience. The idea of high quality and consistent ammo for an affordable price is nice.

 

Yeah I’m familiar with the PRS gear race

The best thing they did was start a production class to keep the cost of the rifles under 2k

 

3Win probably not the best cal to learn long range precision, but you found that out already. You need to train out the recoil flinch, it would help to shoot a different rifle in a lesser cal.

I reload, don’t really track the cost/rnd I shoot the bullets and load them to velocity the rifle likes best

 

Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, your recommendation is to buy more guns?.... this is great news, my wife is gonna love this!

 

Always room fer more hardware

 

The flinch is going away slowly. In reality, another PLR rifle is not in the works for me this year. I'm going to be more purposeful and meditative about my dry fires. That has been helping. Thats what all the folks on youtube have been saying anyway. Recently, when I shoot a crappy group, I'll do three dry groups before shooting again. I can feel my body relaxing a bit and then my next real group is usually around 1 moa. Perhaps I'll only do this for the next few months, that is multiple dry groupings between real groupings. The recoil pad has made the biggest difference - no more bruise on the shoulder. Makes shooting quite fun.

 

300WM can wear on you if shoot any number of cartridges in one sitting. I built one about ten years ago for long range - I shorty put a lighter weight barrel and hunting stock on it, and used it for hunting. But that was with a brake or suppressor on it.

As mentioned, you may want to pick up a short action, non-magnum. It will save lots of frustration. If you must lay down and put 50 shots through it, put a good brake on it. The APA Fat Bastard and Area 419 Sidewinder have both done wonders on my 300WM.

As for hand loading, I don’t think single stage rifle cartridges are done to save money, as people do with handgun cartridges. It’s more about the wider range of projectiles available, and more importantly, being able to fine-tune the load to that specific barrel’s harmonics.