Official 2019 NCAA Football thread

yeah....

The team that has benefited the most from legacy...


NOTRE DAME.


Lord Have Mercy.

 

Wonder what a top 5 Legacy ranking would look like? Be to subjective, no?

 

I mean if you win there's nothing to worry about...you know how much football is left? Florida could be the #1/2 team by November 3rd and they are the 10th ranked team right now. The polls will shuffle tremendously in the next 8 weeks. I've never heard of a poll in week 5 ruining a team's chance for a championship.

 

I think they just published the top programs in the history of college football.

 

https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/best-programs-college-football-history

 

nobody ever really does a study on that, but I'd bet they have more affect than you see/think.

 

I'll use Ohio State as an example.

(regardless of my opinion)

Ohio State is a P5 team.

Ohio State starts the season ranked 8th

While their competition doesnt provide them any movement up the poll, their performance doesn't cause them to move down.

However, other teams move up/leap frog Ohio State, and drop below them.

Slowly, they move up some, as the season goes on. Now ranked 5th.

However, Alabama and Clemson are #1 and #2 because of legacy and being undefeated (I dont think Bama goes undefeated this year...btw, LSU might. Auburn might. Georgia might.)

Now you have two SEC teams battling for the SEC Championship and both are undefeated.

Oklahoma is undefeated as well.


Hell, lets give em all one loss.


How does Ohio State move into the top 4?

If they have identical records....OSU is sitting on the outside looking in. All because they started at 8th. Had they started at 2nd....they'd be in.





Where you start has a lot to do with where you end up. If they ranked Clemson #1 and UNC #2, then Clemson would have held on to defeat the number 2 team in the nation.


As it sits now, Alabama will play a whole lot more highly ranked teams than previously thought. Boosts that body of work. It just does.

 

this.

so many just base it on final records and don't always take into consideration where they began.

RARELY (like clemson escaping UNC and bama moving up) does a team leapfrog another in the top 8 when they both win, but even that is really only for the legacy teams to be able to do, guaranteed LSU or Georgia wouldn't have made that jump had they been 2nd...yes I know I can't actually guarantee that.

 

Yeah. Where you start can (and does) influence not only where your team ends up, but where other teams end up as well.

 

Think about it from a strength of schedule angle.


Everyone that had Clemson on their schedule got a boost in SOS. They were playing the #1 team in the nation.
Everyone that has Alabama on their schedule is playing the #2 team.

Look at aTm and Auburn. They have probably the hardest schedules in the NCAA based off of rankings........

aTm is getting gang banged by the best of the west and then has UGA too? Shit. Thats rough when you suck. BUUUUUT......

If they pull off a couple upsets.....They beat Alabama (#1) and Auburn (#6?) and maybe LSU......Then lose to UGA and meet them in the SECCG.....


They look like shit right now...but their SOS is off the charts right? So even if they lose one of those games.....they could still make it to the play offs....all because Alabama is overrated. LSU is overrated and Auburn is overrated.

 

Woah woah woah. I followed till your last sentence. Don’t get ahead of yourself lol

 

The ranking system is bs anyway. SEC gets favored, always. The rankings mean nothing until at least week 8-9. The artificial inflation of the SEC teams in early season makes it appear that these teams are playing a tougher schedule than they really are. In reality, look at the records of these BS ranked SEC teams at the end of the year, 3-4 losses. Strength of schedule should be determined at the end of the year, not the beginning.

Expand the playoffs to 8 teams, six best conference champs, and two at large bids.

 

Fun stat of the day:

 

Boy that 9 really sticks out doesn’t it

 

Until we get humans, computers, etc out of determination of top teams we will never have a top tier ranking process.

Its simple.... go to 6 team playoff admitting the conference champs of power 5, with 1 group of 5 at large and settle it on the field. You can use your beloved poll to seat with 1 and 2 getting bye and 4 games using the mid major bowls; then playoffs as already established.

But nooooo the status quo makes ESPN, NCAA, and the conferences too much money.

My .02

 

Because its fun to bicker and compare dick sizes. Obviously. That's kinda the point of this thread - try to convince everyone that, no matter what, your team is better. Resulting in you spending endless hours of time trying to find the perfect obscure stat to prove it. For the record, the Washington huskies would kick Alabama's, Clemson's, Ohio States', Georgia's, LSU's - all y'alls asses at the same time, blind folded, with one arm tied behind their backs, because.... give me a few hours to find the stats that proves this... hang on.

 

One would think more playoff games equal more money.

I believe when it comes time for another contract signing for the playoffs, we will see a larger field.

 

I want to be a little controversial here. Would anyone support an 8-team play off structure? I think that would do justice in terms of allowing teams like UCF (non power 5) or conferences like the SEC, that have multiple championship caliber teams, the opportunity to have an equal shot at the title. I think 16 is too much, but 8 is perfect. I feel that at the end of the season all teams in the top 8 could play legitimate championship football. Thats like 3 sec teams (bama, Georgia, and either lsu or auburn), OU, OSU, Clemsen ... and then two more strong contenders like last year's UCF or possibly this years Oregon (if the they win out), Wisconsin, maybe PSU. That basically provides room for the 1-loss team and all undefeated teams an opportunity to compete. I would rather have that and one less pre-season game than continue the four team playoff system. The SEC needs a second team (for sure this year), and all five power conferences need an opportunity. I also love how much the underdog can just crush in football, so we need a spot for non power five teams... thats eight spaces people! Some one email the NCAA!

 

Bill Hancock (Executive Director of the CFP) was the guest speaker at the touchdown club meeting the other night. He basically said, it is talked about and considered, but not in earnest yet. Current contract runs through 2026, so they'll discuss in earnest around 2024. But he also said they are happy with how the 4 team has gone, and adding more creates the same argument... 6 team playoff - argument over the 7th team. 8 team, argue over the 9th, etc...

 

Everyone can disagree with me, I don’t care. But more playoff games will take away from the regular season. One of the things that imo makes college football better than the pros is that every game is so important. It’s like every game is a playoff because 1 loss could end your season in term of a national championship. Add to that the intense rivalries and each game is so big. It’s not that I’m against more of a playoff, I just don’t want to lose the importance of the regular season rival games.