Official 2019 NCAA Football thread

By the time you get to the 9th team at the end of the season, you are looking at 2 loss teams. Now, we aren't talking about championship caliber teams. Hell, if its one of those years where all teams below five have 2 losses, teams five through eight aren't championship caliber teams either. However, when you do the math and you look at what an 8 team play off provides, it gets you representation for at least one team from each power five conference (non of this bull shit about Big then vs Big twelve, or Pac 12 once they produce a quality team again), and you have three extra spots for non p5 teams or additional representation from particularly strong p5 conferences.

Its about being fair, its not about stopping the bickering and discussions (this is the fun part). What I dont like is when we get mediocre teams in bad conferences that get priority over great steams in great conferences. The bickering and genuine displeasure is warranted when teams like OU and OSU are trading places for the 4th spot, or when Georgia isn't considered because of a close loss to bama, or fill in the blank______. In an 8 team system, the bickering becomes arbitrary because we will be debating things like a two loss team in the SEC vs a two loss team in the Big12 or 10 - which are not championship caliber teams at this point.

 

Nah, I dont agree with that. Some games are important, most are absolute slaughters, and everyone knows it going into the games. Your top 10 teams dominate everyone else by a huge margin. The important games are when the top ten teams play each other. Commonly, these same games also happen to be the big rivalries you so cherish. Auburn vs bama, texas vs OU, Michigan vs Ohio State... these are commonly top ten teams. Instead of giving up after 1 loss to their rival, the teams still have a chance, so they keep playing hard, in an eight team playoff that is.

 

If the playoffs go to six teams, it should the conference champions from the P5, and one non P5 conference winner. MUST be a conf champ. F notre dame.. join a conference.

 

I agree completely with this.

I also agree with this except I think you mean rivalry games like Georgia auburn, bama Tennessee, South Carolina Clemson, etc. I disagree with having to keep those. Nobody cares that Georgia auburn is the oldest rivalry except those fans. And not a single person on the planet cares to watch bama play Tennessee every year, especially with the controversy it creates with that stupid ass permanent cross division opponent.

 

When my team beats LSU, Auburn, and UGA this year... I challenge you to argue my team isn't the best one out there.

The problem with 8 teams... imho... is you'll have the arguement that a non conference champion should hop a lesser conferences champion. With my idea the UCFs or Houstons of the world would be able to prove they belong in the conversation. The way I see it if you didnt win your conference... you ain't the best team. I'm an SEC bleeder till the end but it teed me off to no avail a non conference champion winning Alabama was even able to compete for the title. If you're gonna let a non conference champion in... why even have it?

And ND proponents who want to argue they'd miss out due to not winning a conference... join one then and quit being greedy..

 

@TacoHank1998 The Huskies will prevail. I belligerently support that statement. To your point about the conference non-champs making it to the playoffs in the eight team system that is a MASSIVE problem with the four team system. Ohio State over Penn State. Bama and Georgia even though bama lost. Or every year when atleast one p5 conference is left out entirely! - all of which happens in the four team system. Its all silly talk. I'll say it - the four team system was absolutely idiotic to begin with, and has the same issues as the BCS system. It should have been an eight team system from the start.

No one here is going to argue that all four of the teams I mentioned above weren't championship caliber teams and did not deserve to go, but everyone here will argue that teams eight through five were also equally championship caliber teams. In an eight team system you have room to represent all p5 conference champs, non-conference teams like ND, possible non p5 conference champs like UCF, and in tough years when one p5 conference has multiple championship caliber teams there is room to represent them too (granted ND and non-p5 teams would likely be excluded, but justifiably in this case). Its actually fair. No one fan base is completely screwed by a weak schedule they had no control over. Remember the first CFP when Ohio State was the underdog all season and just squeaked in at the very end of the season in to the fourth spot, and proceeded to literally rape and pillage the entire playoffs? Those teams exist in rankings five through eight and and will never have the chance to prove it.

 

But they are conference games. So are you suggesting doing away with conference games to schedule a high profile team instead?

Generally though I do think the committee usually does have the top 4 right by years end, unlike the BCS era where only 2 were selected while 3 & 4 were arguably just as good. Anything beyond the top 4 or maybe 5 most years are not in the conversation imo. Although that’s not to say it won’t happen to where 6-8 teams all fit the bill to be in. Where ever the line is drawn though, there will be that one team that claims they should be in. It’s got to cut off somewhere.

Bottom line is I don’t want to ruin the importance of the season games and become like MLB, 162 games in the year. The season is relatively boring until playoff time. In the NFL a team can be mediocre all season, finish 8-8 and make a wildcard spot, get hot and go on a win streak and make the Super Bowl.

 

Literally exactly why I support the eight team CFP system.

 

6 teams. No more. 5 champs, 1 at large. I don’t care if it’s a non P5, or a P5 team. There’s no reason to have more than 6 teams. Last year, 7 and 8 both had 3 losses by year’s end (including bowl game). 2017, auburn finished 7 with 3 losses. 2016, Wisconsin was 8 with 3 losses. There’s no way you should get to contend for a championship if you lose almost 1/4 of your games.

 

How does a six team playoff work?

 

Conference champs don’t have a place. Win your games and get in. Pitt could have made it last year had they won. Really? No thanks.

 

#goducks

 

Why the hell is Tennessee listed in the "favorite" column of the pick'em this week against Georgia??

 

Like this...

 

no I'm not saying get rid of conference games, but get rid of the permanents. south carolina/clemson isn't a conference game btw and is one I mentioned.

I also don't agree that 5 conference champs should be auto bids to the playoffs, but I do believe 6 or 8 would be much better than the 4. If 6, no lock-in for P5 conference champs though....if you're good and win your P5 conference you should be in based on rankings already, but say you're a 4 loss team that made it to the championship and pulled off an insane upset but are still like 15th in the nation...doesn't mean you're good enough to be in.

 

Because the Lady Volunteers are playing.

 

6 team playoff at most.

#1 and #2 get a bye week one. (This keeps the importance on every game, because you want that week one bye.)

#3 vs. #6 #4 vs. #5 week one.

#1 vs. lowest ranked winner for week two
#2 vs. highest ranked winner for week two.

Championship game week 3. Makes it a three week championship season. Keeps it compact and you have two games a week that people want to watch. The highest ranked teams get some love...the lowest ranked teams have to prove they belong (which is what they are clamoring for. A chance to prove they belong.)


6 team playoff at the most.




HOWEVER: The argument that works best for keeping a 4 team playoff is that in each year of the playoff, the eventual National Champion is pretty much indisputable. Right? The playoff committee has gotten the best 4 teams in, and the team that won has been the best team.

 

I'd also like to add, that when they sign the next contract....that shit needs to be shorter or have language in it that allows the format to change if needed.

With all of this legislation getting passed about players and their likeness, its possible the NCAA wont allow teams to compete in the playoff or bowl games due to paying players. This legislation is slated to take effect in 2022 for California, and they can't adjust the playoff system until 2026? Could be quite a few shake ups...issues.

 

NCAA is going to have to adapt because they’re going to have to share the wealth or lose a great portion of it. Their arguments against the legislation are bonkers.