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Has anyone installed a oil catch can in a 2019 Tacoma.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by TRD Larry, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Oct 7, 2019 at 11:54 AM
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    I don't disagree with manufacturers doing anything to save money, but a catch can is way cheaper than 6 extra injectors, which is what Toyota did to solve this problem. In fact they did such a good job Ford copied them.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:14 PM
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    NOT TRUE - The laws of physics (Thermodynamics) states that nothing can be created or destroyed, only changed so that stuff in the catch can was there all along, now you just have to see it. Also if it was only condensation it would be clear as water is clear.

    Now particles can pop in and out of existence, but we must go to the quantum level and sadly the Taco is not at that level so we can leave it out.
     
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  4. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:18 PM
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    -Exactly....saving a few dollars per vehicle here-and-there adds up to millions in profits across the board over the years.
    -Sure, emptying catch cans could be the reason Toyota doesn’t include them on their vehicles.....who knows.....Need vs Cost.
    -Catch cans aren’t a ‘Toyota Only’ thing. They’ve been around for decades and plenty of experienced people know.
    -Definitely, condensation builds up in the catch cans/lines.....and under the valve covers and lots of other places in engines when they cool.

    All i’m saying is, bottom-line they’re cheap and easy to install and don’t harm the engine. I put one on my 3rd Gen and have found oil in it that would have otherwise gone into my intake.
     
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  5. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM
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    Adding the injectors was not to solve a problem of the catch can, it does help though. Maybe on this engine a catch can by itself would have not been enough. Who knows? The injectors also adds to power output and I think they run when its cold to heat the cats up quicker (I think..... but not 100%)

    So yes they help, but Toyota added those 6 injectors for other reasons as well, not just for cleaning. GM did the same and the extra injectors turn on at WOT for extra power.
     
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    Wrong.

    Outside air flows through your engine and crankcase. It carries with it moisture from outside the engine. This moisture collects in the catch can, mixing with the oily vapour that ALL PCV systems, since the beginning of time, have fed back into their engines.

    Now, rather than everything being normal, you’ve got water collecting inside your engine due to the cool walls of your (unfortunately alloy) catch-can causing condensation when you turn off your engine.

    If you install a catch can, you are reducing the life of your engine. Really bad move, but fine on a lease as it gives you something to do when you’re bored.
     
  7. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:35 PM
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    Sell it before it grenades man......seriously.
     
  8. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM
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    Its easy to get cynical with corporations cutting costs, but at the end of the day, they have to build a product that people are satisfied with. Tacoma buyers are notoriously stubborn about reliability and longevity. If Tacoma's started becoming unreliable due to Toyota cutting too many corners, the truck's popularity would fade and Toyota would lose money.

    So yes, they do cut costs where they can... where they feel won't affect the truck's main selling features: reliability and longevity.
     
  9. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:38 PM
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    No you are totally wrong on this Stocklooker:

    Let me explain - if outside moisture was able to get INSIDE the catch can that would mean you have a vacuum leak and you would trigger a check engine light. Its a closed system. Also the engine bay is so hot when its running moisture is not a problem or you would see steam, like from a bad radiator. Nothing from the OUTSIDE goes INSIDE the can PERIOD, or you have a leak!!!!! The can gets all the vapours from inside the engine and cleans those same vapours before those same vapours go back in the engine.

    On Thursday my vid will be released. I wish I released it today, but I'm afraid to change the date as its already done and I post every week (try for Thursdays)

    Reason for edit - spelling, dam I'm typing too fast
     
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    Exactly. It's like people who believe in burning candles on your ear to "suck out" ear wax because there's some brown gunk on it afterwards.
     
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    Love It!!!!! In a perfect world

    In the real world all you have to add to your equation is unburnt oil on the input side!!!!
     
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    The point was that you don't have to have a leak to get condensation inside your engine.
     
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  15. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:47 PM
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    Thanks for the link on the vid, I'll watch it tonight
     
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    It's condensation. Exactly the same as condensation on a cold Gin and Tonic, the inside of the catch can gathers condensation in the same way because it is hotter that the atmosphere. It is a simple fact that every time you engine cools some moisture collects on the inside.
     
  17. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:53 PM
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    I know that, but when referring to stockholder post #67 that's not correct. All the outside air brought into the engine has nothing to do with the catch can, the catch can is after the fact and does not affect the metered air flow. The inside of the engine will produce far more condensation that what a catch can will produce. Further, the can has hot air running though it anyway so I would argue no condensation is really created by it. The condensation in your engine is caught by the can, not created by the can. The volume of the interior engine surface is much larger than the can.

    Sorry if I didn't get your point spot on. We need to take a break for a day.
     
  18. Oct 7, 2019 at 12:56 PM
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    which gm car do you speak of that has more injectors than cylinders?
     
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    So you are telling me that a hot can on the inside creates condensation? Your gin and tonic creates condensation on the OUTSIDE. Like a COLD can of coke on a hot day. You are backwards sir. There is no condensation created on a hot surface. You need a cold surface with hot air. When your engine is running I can guarantee there should not be any water condensation on it when it gets hot.
     
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    2019 corvette ZR1, if you are a GM tech you should know this. There are 16 injectors.
     
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