Noico and Quieting the Cabin

I'm going to drop this in here too, as the Audio & Video forum doesn't get as much traction and I have my damn truck pulled apart waiting for some input.

I thought I had an idea of what I was doing and ripped apart my interior and ordered 145 sq ft of Noico and some tape to quiet the interior of my DCLB. Now, looking at some of the other threads I don't know if I have everything I need. My main goal is to quiet the interior cabin. I am seeing mats, foam and other things guys are using and I'm not sure if this is overkill for me. I screwed myself and bought the JBL sound system, so until there's a solution to upgrade that system without completely gutting everything I'm stuck with it, as I'm not a fan of how the aftermarket head units stick out from the dash. Is there anything else I need for my application other than the Noico and tape at this time? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thnx

Also, is there a certain temperature the Noico is supposed to be installed at. It's to arrive by end of today and my temps are around 35-45 degrees right now. Would a heat gun be needed?

 

I installed noico in temps around 60 degrees and I used a blow dryer. Worked well. You will definitely want something to heat it up. It becomes very tacky with heat. Of yah, get some type of roller to roll the noico on. I just used my hands and ended up with cuts and slices all over my hands and fingers. The inside of my doors looked like a murder scene by the time I was finished.

 

Thnx for the input. I did order a roller as well. So did you just use Noico and that's it, no foam or matting? Was your goal to simply quiet the cabin and how did it work if you only used the Noico?

 

I plan to do this in the next month or so and have done some preliminary research. The stuff that you got doesn't stop outside noise from coming in. It stop panels from vibrating. You also only need about 25% coverage on the large panels that vibrate.

To deal with outside noise coming in (traffic, etc.) you need closed cell foam and mass loaded vinyl over that. I'm sure this will help with noise but to really beat it I think you need a combo of the three things above. I'm curious to hear your results with just the Noico.

 

So my thought was the lifting up the factory insulation, placing the Noico down and replacing the insulation. Where would I get the closed cell foam and mass loaded vinyl?

 

Something like this combines both into one. But like I said I just started doing my research and haven't done this yet. So I'm not really sure how this all works. More just what I've read but don't have first hand experience.

Second Skin Luxury Liner Pro - 2 in 1 Sound Insulation for Cars - Mass Loaded Vinyl and Closed Cell Foam - MLV Noise Barrier Made in USA (1 Sheet)

https://www.amazon.com/Second-Skin-Luxury-Liner-Soundproofing/dp/B01NAFWT3S

 

I just used the noico. I mostly wanted to prevent rattles when I installed new speakers and a sub. There may have been some sound deadening but I didn’t do any before and after testing. My interior is pretty quiet and most of the noise I hear at highway speeds are wind noise.

 

You'll want to add MLV (Mass Loaded vinyl). Noico is a sound deadener, not a sound proofing material. The difference being that sound deadeners insulate and reduce vibration and resonance from objects (vibration in sheet metal in this case). You'll definitely notice some sound reduction but you'll also want to ad MLV as it is better suited to actually "block" noise (vibration in the air) than the butyl of the Noico. @Crom did a great write up on the subject but there are also other threads that I can link:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-getaway-croms-build-and-adventures.362772/
if you look at that thread, he added hyperlinks in the first post to specific sound deadening projects. I wouldn't hold my breath if you try to contact him as he's not on much these days, but his write ups are very thorough.

My own thread on sound deadening but also thermal insulation:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/removing-your-headliner-and-insulating-sound-deadening.394469/

Another complete thread using Dynamat and MLVL:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/audio-visual-diy-thread.173147/

Good luck.

 

When I did my Subaru Forester I used RAAMmat (noico/dynamat type stuff) and Ensolite (closed cell foam). Sealed all the doors and rear hatch area and it made a huge difference in road noise. That was my primary goal with audio a distant second.

 

So this is what I have already bought and I went with the 80 mil over the 50 thinking it would be quieter.

$80 Noico 80 mil (2 mm) 36 sqft (3.4 sqm) car Sound deadening mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URUIKAK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


So essentially I would need this and an MLV, correct?

$50 Noico Red 150 mil (4mm) 36 sqft (3.4 sqm) Noico Liner Car Heat and Sound Insulation,Heat and Cool Liner, Self-Adhesive Closed Cell Foam (PE Foam)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TKXMPH7/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07TKXMPH7&pd_rd_w=uCSFT&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=3I70N&pf_rd_r=61PTV2H6FX955YTAEAT6&pd_rd_r=a0162f24-75eb-49e4-8a03-32ca9e9bc710&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyVTAyNVMwRElJU0o4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTI3NTg1MUpaSzdWNUw0VlVVWSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDUzMDkzUExBMTJHQVdZV01IJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ%3D%3D

With the

Second Skin Luxury Liner Pro - 2 in 1 Sound Insulation for Cars - Mass Loaded Vinyl and Closed Cell Foam - MLV Noise Barrier Made in USA (1 Sheet)

https://www.amazon.com/Second-Skin-Luxury-Liner-Soundproofing/dp/B01NAFWT3S am I still needing the Noico 80 mil I already bought inconjenction with the Second Skin or is the Second Skin eliminating the need of the Noico? Shit this is confusing.

 

You should be fine with the Noico butyl and Second Skin MLV. The closed cell foam product you linked is similar to MLV in the way it works, but a slightly inferior product (i.e.: it'll still work, but not as well). MLV is really dense and heavy which is why it works so well to stop sound waves.

 

You are over thinking this. The door panels are easy enough to remove. Install what you have and see if you like the difference. Simple as that.

You will notice a good reduction in road noise with just the sound deadening mat. Install it and enjoy. If you don't like it enough, then you can do more later.

Get a heat gun (like $10 from Harbor Freight) and wear gloves.

 

I did Noico butyl and their foam on the insides shell of both doors and on the floor of the cab and back wall. Then I laid down MLV on the floor. Still need to go back in and trim some around the outer edge bc the door sills wont snap into place like before, and is killing my OCD. Think I am going to try a layer of Luxury Liner Pro on the doors behind the plastic panels. Have some butyl left so I might add some strips to the back of the panel also around the switch panels.

 

I Noico'd my door skins with their butyl Matt and did the floor with the butyl Matt and closed cell foam. I'd say the doors made the most substantial difference and did help with the noise, but I quickly became accustomed to it and almost wished I would have tried the mass loaded vinyl

Edit* or maybe I'm just being too picky about it.