What generation are most 3rd gen drivers?

But you’re comparing vehicles from the 2000s and 2010s to vehicles from the 1960s and 1970s. As you noted, there isn’t much to compare in terms of long Jevity, fuel economy, quality.

Where I’m from, it’s all about straight line performance—drag racing. Just visit a local drag strip and you will still find many of the rides from the ‘60s and ‘70s dominating the field. Just enough fuel to get down the track and back to the pits. Sitting low up front and high out back. If it blows, overhaul the motor and start all over again.

 

You don't need an advanced degree to make that kind of money in IT, heck you don't even need a degree at all if you are motivated enough.

 

GenX/Xenial which pretty much means I've been stuck in lower management since graduating college in 2005. Leave Boomers!

I wish someone would have given me some good advice and said, screw college, it's a waste of $, serve your country and learn a trade, this would have been much more interesting & lucrative. I'm thinking of quitting lower management status now & finding a trade and I totally would if I also wouldn't be in the beginning of raising a family which is extra tough because I just married a Gen Xer with 2 degrees and a Master's so you know, were paying for that now, haha, damn.
Yeah, good advice, that's what's needed out there & slap the damn electric box out of a kid's hand next time ya see one!

 

Most trades are directly tied into the economy- think "bellwether".

If you get in when the economy is ticking upwards, you can have a nice long run.

If you get in when things are going south, it can be a struggle.

If you are competent person, you probably will be able to put food on the table regardless of the situation, as long as you stay healthy.

It can get really tough if you get injured and can't work- always a possibility since many skilled trade jobs can also be dangerous jobs.

 

+1
A plumbing apprenticeship will get you that type of money after 5 years on the gross, after taxes are all said and done here in california you'll make around 65-70k. You'll also have opportunity to become a Foreman, Plumbing Detailer, Superintendente, or welder and make more. Hell last time I checked welders were making 52.48 an hour.

 

….since Toyota and BMW are sharing a bed in 2020, Tacoma should offer future Tacoma buyers some M Power.

 

Baby Boomers Rule!

 

Yes, that's the one thing to watch for, getting hurt. I framed houses during the Summers during college and between jobs since graduating. I love the work but oh when you're pulling rafters on a make shift scrap scaffolding set on the ceiling joists of a 2 story home, one fall, that's all I can think of.
A lot of times I feel like the one of the guys on Office Space going into work ( kind of funny bc I'm in Austin) and I see shit that's in no way glorious but just needed like grass cutters, pool guys and even dog shit retrieval Vans.. I think, bet noones gonna ask them if they're having a case of the Mondays, haha and if you own one of the above companies, you're probably earning about 1.5x what I'm earning too, so where's the glory now, haha..

 

That's the case with most jobs though, including white collar ones that require degrees. And if you are in a non-technical, more support-oriented position at a private company, you are most likely to be on the chopping block if the economy turns south.

If you're in a white collar profession, its best to find something technical that requires a special skill or education (maximum pay, moderate job security) or find something in government (moderate pay, maximum job security).

 

True but but an advanced degree can help you bypass a lot of the experience that is typically needed.

 

You're right, they do rule but for no reason.
Most are not smarter, more experienced or even have 1/2 the work ethic as me. They were just 18-21 years old at the right time in life..
Most have retired once and have come back to take another job to finish paying off their 2nd home and to make sure they have at least $5mm in their retirement accounts because you know, that's how much you need to enjoy 65-80..

 

Much better!

 

Very true, theres a saying in plumbing, out of everyone in plumbing, 70% are there as a body and a paycheck, and are fine being laid off and waiting for the next big job; 20% are the ones that can learn work hard but get complacent and end up screwing things up by coming in late, drinking on a weekday or bringing in problems from home. 10% are always working no matter how the economy is, work hard no matter what and are constantly making sure their certs are up to date. They'll work wherever they want and get hired wherever they want.

 

Yes and no. It may help you get your foot in the door but once you've been doing it for a bit and can show you know what you are doing its not really important. I'd rather work than rack up more debt, but everyone has their own path.

 

I touched on this in an earlier post. Baby Boomers are clogging the system in terms of upper level positions. They’re working longer nowadays to hold on to employer paid health benefits, pay off college tuition/student loans for their children, pay off mortgages/2nd mortgages, keep contributing to their retirement plans, renovate their empty nest, etc. Some just don’t want to let go of the status they’ve achieved over the years or can’t quite see themselves not getting up and going to work every day.

I am a first generation college graduate. I started college in 2000 and graduated in 2004. I’m still paying student loans. I now understand what my dad meant nearly 20 years ago while sitting in the campus financial aid office when he told me I had more to overcome than many others. My wife has student loan debt as well. With two kids, one in school who attends an after-school program while we work and one in daycare, I know exactly how you feel about making a sudden career change.

Looking back, my classmates who graduated high school and immediately entered the military are looking at 20-year retirement within the next year or so. They’ll begin a second career soon after with military benefits and a second stream of revenue. They’re in the best financial shape of anyone else in my peer group!

 

Marketing for the Sand Box Generation....

 

Have been buying Toyota trucks all my life starting with 1977 Hilux. Currently loving my 2019 TRD sport.

 

If the position requires a degree, then you'd never get your foot in the door in the first place. How do you prove yourself if you're never given the chance?

 

Ya and each company is different. I work for one of the largest companies in the world 150,000 employees and I won’t even look at someone unless they have a BS or an MS with some certifications. The market is too competitive too competitive.

The other problem is long term experience is meaningless in many parts of IT/Cyber because of how quickly it changes. Windows 95 experience is moot for example, so someone applying to a position with 20 years of experience has about 15 that are obsolete.