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Motorcycles BS Thread 2.0

Discussion in 'Motorcycles' started by Sacrifice, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. Oct 9, 2019 at 8:51 AM
    NC Rick

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    The latest generations of ABS are much better than bikes had just a few years ago. No escaping the nanny electronics, they even help the racers now days.
     
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    yes, but i dont know any racers that run ABS.
     
  3. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:04 AM
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    No ABS street tire race bike
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    And I've never seen a little old lady pull out in front of anyone on a race track.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:09 AM
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    if you have ABS you prolly wont stop in time.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM
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    The fact that I'm here typing this reply soundly refutes your erroneous statement.
     
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    you can defend your lack of situational awareness to no end, you like ABS, you can preach all you want about it, its YOUR OPINION. people successfully have survived riding motorcycles with out ABS with out incident! my opinion is ABS is trash, gives idiot riders an excuse to not advance their skills and have a greater understanding of the bikes capabilities because they rely on a baby sitter.. im happy you're still here and its all because ABS, thats a great accomplishment :)
     
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  8. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:26 AM
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    Or....it's a potentially life saving feature that isn't used all the time but when you need it it's really nice to have.
     
  9. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:32 AM
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    yes, once again, maybe you should make better life choices and ride a ninja 250. when its your time... its your time my man.
     
  10. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    That's dumb as fuck. Might as well not wear gear or a helmet with that attitude since they're designed for the same purpose as ABS - saving your life when you or someone else fucks up and you hit the ground.
     
  11. Oct 9, 2019 at 9:39 AM
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    My great uncle road a 1940-something knucklehead with drum brakes well into his 70s. If he was still alive, I'm sure he would no doubt preach that disk brakes are just a crutch for wannabe ninnies who don't have any "situational awareness"......
     
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    I don't get it, i'm not pushing my views onto anyone. ABS is trash - its a bandaid to bad riding, bad situational awareness & lack of skill, judgement & experience. Helmets are great, i use a very expensive one because i enjoy to keep racing even if i make a mistake. i dont expect it to save my life.. it will help the witnesses to my death keep their food in the stomach since they wont see brain and teeth mixed in clumps on the ground when i do meet my end.
     
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    you ladies are so defensive, i get it, you're embarrassed you like ABS and think its the best thing.. I think its trash.
     
  14. Oct 9, 2019 at 10:02 AM
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    Couldn't be more right. I never had a "close call" with a cage, because I learned to look so far ahead of them in time. I could see in my head, the 3 or 4 threats that might happen at an intersection. Without fail, one of them would not see me and pull out. Even though I was staring right into their eyes. But since I was so far ahead of their reaction, I was ready with an out and ready to slam on the brakes or hit the gas to get past. I have had hundreds of 'wtf are you doing incidents' but never something I couldn't avoid. Today, Im old, I get so mad at people when I'm a passenger in their car and they are just rolling down the road right beside someone else. Especially if its a big truck. Get past them or get behind them, you have no where to go if that person decides to change lanes! If ABS saved a life, great, if ABS saves your life more than once, you're doing something drastically wrong and shouldn't be riding on the street until your situational awareness improves.
     
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    I’m not embarrassed in the least. I’ll take my bike that can stop just as well manually but also has a backup safety feature if needed.
     
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    thanks for speaking up!
     
  17. Oct 9, 2019 at 10:24 AM
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    Hence the $1-$2 million price tag of those MotoGP bikes.

    I use my bikes to commute to work, that means riding rain or shine. Say what you want, but ABS is a benefit when riding in the rain.
     
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    I suppose. a lot of attributes surround this argument. if i used economical tires and didn't properly set up my suspension etc and lacked confidence in my capabilities id probably be all for ABS.
     
  19. Oct 9, 2019 at 10:35 AM
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    Well, I'm truly I'm awe of the miraculous talent lurking I'm this thread.

    I've had dozens and dozens of close calls, only one incident (on a non abs bike, ironically.....). The number of incidents are directly proportional to the sheer volume of miles you spend on 2 wheels. Have I avoided any incidents simply because I'm a ninnie girl with ABS? Who knows. Maybe. I do know that ABS didn't make those situations any worse so that's cool..... Would I have avoided my one ambulance ride if I was on an ABS bike? You bet your ass I would have. Situational awareness is not just looking out for what COULD happen, it's also remembering what HAS happened, and not repeating what didn't work.

    I'll be much more inclined to listen to ABS opinions from a quiet guy in a dirty aerostich suit than from a squid who immediately wants to tell me how many wheelies they popped on the interstate.....
     
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  20. Oct 9, 2019 at 10:38 AM
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    I don’t see any need for people to take offense, it’s a good discussion about technology and motor vehicles in general. I personally likely have more riding experience than many and don’t own a bike with ABS or traction control. My own track bike and former race bike is a 1998 Ducati 996 that was a former AMA Pro-Thunder bike (with the old 800cc 748 engine). I’m certainly not a “fast” guy...


    As a suspension guy, we have supported teams that have used it. Our current sponsored team is leading the national points in the ASRA endurance series on last years R1 Yamaha. I’ll say that definitely the electronics were the most difficult aspect of the bikes setup last year.

    for sure one the of the two bikes we supported during the two years we ran the Suntrust endurance season which had ABS we couldn’t get bypassed soon enough. All that stuff gets better and like traction control, can be better than any rider. It is still the fact (politically incorrect content to follow) “it ain’t the bow, it’s the Indian”:D

    I don’t know any racers who do much crazy stuff on the street. I don’t know all the racers either.
     

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