Tacoma may get a 4cyl Turbo

Nobody said anything about when the last internal combustion vehicle will be off the road. Just when you will no longer be able to buy a new one. There are cars over a century old that still hit the road for a sunday drive now and then.

I've already pointed out technology that solves all of the issues you've mostly repeated. Supercapacitors.
Drive all day: if it charges in 3 minutes and has a range of at least as high as a CURRENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE, then there is no issue.
Cold weather: supercapacitors perform as well in the cold as they perform in the hot (contrary to BOTH lithium batteries, AND gasoline/diesel).
Apartments: No you don't need a charger for every parking space. Your tenants can visit the nearest charging station for 3 minutes.
Street side parking: Same.

In fact, my guess is that once long range supercapacitor based EV's are available, you won't be able to buy a "3 minute charger" for home use. That is going to be restricted to filling stations for safety reasons, because the current (i.e., amperes) it will take to charge a car that fast will be dangerously high.

Actually, vehicle ownership has already gone away for large portions of urban populations. Ever tried driving downtown in a big city? ALL of the people driving there are not from downtown, and drive there only because they don't have a choice. Surface lots are all but gone, leaving only a small amount of parking underground -- beneath condos and office towers, where nobody wants to live or work anyway. You're not going to be able to do away with the roads, they'll just be handed over to pedestrians and pedalbikes, since people, whether they are driving, pedalbiking, or walking, still need to get around.

Also note that city dwellers are tending not to even have a driver's license. Keep that in mind next time you're forced to drive downtown amongst pedalbikers -- 9 times out of 10, they are not educated in the rules of the road.

Suburban and rural populations will always need personal modes of conveyance that is capable of covering long distances. Naturally, urban areas creep outward and convert those previously suburban areas into regions where personal vehicles are no longer practical, but suburban areas also creep outward into rural areas, and rural areas creep outward into nature. This won't change until the entire surface of the planet is urbanized. Fortunately, there is still a lot of planet surface left.

As far as the question of autonomy vs having an actual driver goes, hard to say how that will play out. You still need to have road space to fit an autonomous vehicle, and there will always be situations they are incapable of handling, especially when you start getting into moral or ethical choices, like, for example, you are driving along a cliff and a kid crashes his scooter from the opposite lane in front of you. Does the car kill the kid? Or does it kill you and your kid in the back seat? And who ends up being responsible for that choice?

 

To many words in this thread.

 

This thread might be more your type;
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/funny-gifs.145576

 

But was it turbo failure in the WRXs and STIs that resulted in the need for a rebuild and if so was it improper (lack of) turbo cool down that was the problem? And were these low pressure turbos as found in cars like MR2 and Volvo XC70?

 

define low pressure? regardless, while i see what you're getting at, which is a valid point that lower pressure= less hard on engine, etc, it's still extra wear.

 

Think of it this way;
What makes more stress on an engine; a 2.0L 4-cyl with a turbo making 200 hp? Or a 3.0L 4-cyl without a turbo making 200 hp?
You see the point, I hope... its not the turbo that overstresses it. Its whether the engine is designed to take all the stresses that it is expected to take.

Or to flip it upside down, these current 2.7's make 159/164 hp (<=2015/2016+), which is harder on the engine than it would be if it was de-tuned to 100 hp, so shouldn't it be de-tuned to 100 hp?

 

Did I imply someone said something about when the last internal combustion vehicle will be off the road?

I'm just being realistic. I think things will move slower than most want them to. I don't think EVs will be the majority of cars out there for a long time just because of economics. I also don't think the current offering of EVs work for everyone. Therefore we have to wait for new technology and then wait for that to trickle down. Hence my prediction that it will take a long time still.

I don't keep up with the technology at all other than what has been released. If the supercapitors that you speak of work, great. If they actually do charge in 3 minutes, I don't think you will need home chargers or apartment complex chargers. Its the same as going to the gas station.

I did see something sort of interesting I hadn't considered. It had to do with the rolling blackouts in California during the wildfires. I could see this as a potentially dangerous situation if you need to evacuate and have no power. Ideally your car should already be charged, but it is an interesting thought. Lack of electricity could leave you immobile. Its still not much different than gas, but I can see the point if you weren't aware of an upcoming power outage.

 

I guess a 6.0 v12 twin turbo means that it needs more cylinders eh?

 

Yeah, basically the whole thing you said.

 

Doesn't mean it needs more cylinders.
Means that somebody needs more brains.

 

So what? 22REs used to go into Dually 1 tons and did just fine in those applications.

even better.

 

Everyone I know that has a fully electric car has at least 1 other gas powered car. That being said, individuals with the telsa battery wall and solar panels were unaffected by blackouts.

https://www.fastcompany.com/9041530...ornias-blackouts-people-are-using-solar-power

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotor...aved_us_from_pge_wildfire_prevention/e8bmov0/

I plan on getting a powerwall and solar panels in the future.

 

nah, just a deeper wallet.

 

https://youtu.be/rtsENyPZOHw

 

Wouldn't put much faith into those two. Watched their 2020 changes video a couple months back and they had 3/4 of the things wrong, even stuff easily googleable and well-known to anybody with half a brain (aka people on TW).

 

The race is on! Who will be first to go, vehicles manufactured with internal combustion engines or Tacoma's with rear drum brakes?

 

Turbos don’t shorten the life of a well designed engine, like the 2.7. The engine isn’t the problem. The turbo is. It is an introduction of a weak (very) link in a relatively indestructible design.

 

Disagree. Here’s an article for you to read up on.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/08/qotd-are-all-these-turbocharged-cars-going-to-last/

 

If your cars not gassed up same problem. With no power gas pumps don’t work

 

Subaru has never been the poster-child for reliable turbo engines. They have plenty of head gasket issues on NA engines.
I'd rather have an EA888 any day.