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Do these torque settings look right

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by TonyTaco19/05, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. Oct 19, 2019 at 6:46 PM
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    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg For 2019 Tacoma 4x4 Offroad both front and rear bottom shock bolts and sway bar bolts.
     
  2. Oct 19, 2019 at 6:51 PM
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    Where is that diagram from?
    By "do they look right" do you mean to ask if they are reasonable sounding torque requirements?
     
  3. Oct 19, 2019 at 7:04 PM
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    Went into parts at Toyota dealerships and asked. Yes does it look reasonable. 144 seems high on front bottom shock bolt.
     
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  4. Oct 19, 2019 at 7:09 PM
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    Right!!
     
  5. Oct 19, 2019 at 7:13 PM
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    From dealer. Was finding mixed numbers so I went in for a manual. They don’t have so I went to parts and asked.
     
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    What size is that bolt for the lower front shock? I.D. the size, thread pitch, and grade and cross reference the torque on Google (or wherever).
     
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    Diagrams shown are for RWD 5-lug models. Look in the pages for 4WD models.
     
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    idk about all that. 2nd gen shows 61 lbf, and I think that's a safe number.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Those are diagrams from the FSM, they look very similar to the diagrams shown on my 2016's FSM.
    I can double check mine as a quick reference, I don't think it's changed much from my 2016 to your 2019.

    EDIT: Here's the specs for a 2016 TRD OR straight from the FSM.

    front shock torque.jpg
     
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    Now that you said that.
    The stuff I’ve seen is
    30 for sway
    61 front lower
    74 rear lower
    I will go back and double check
     
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    Those numbers look better/more accurate
     
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    If you live in a salty state and spray bolts with Fluid Film before assembly, reduce torque to ~60% of book value to avoid overstretching the bolt.
     
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    Whoa wait what, is this really a thing?
     
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    I certainly hope they are, lol :fingerscrossed: I've heard guys are torquing that lower shock bolt up to 85 lbf without an issue, but that 144 does look excessive....
     
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    Just trying to save money after the 4K I just dropped. I’ll probably just take it to a reputable shop and let them f it up for a fee
     
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    Oils and lubricants reduce friction in the threads. That means for a given torque, the tension preload in the bolt is higher than with dry threads. If you lube the threads and torque to book value (which is usually spec'd for dry threads), you can break the bolt.
     
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    The following info came from The Engineering Toolbox.com.



    Lubrication effect on bolt tension and torque
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    When a bolt is lubricated - less torque is required to achieve bolt axial load or tension. Reduction of torques for lubricated vs. dry bolts are indicated in the table below.

    Lubricant Torque Reduction
    (%)

    No lube 0
    Graphite 50 - 55
    White Grease 35 - 45
    SAE 30 oil 35 - 45
    SAE 40 oil 30 - 40
    Example - Reduction of Torque when Bolt is Lubricated
    The maximum tightening torque for a slightly lubricated 1" Grade 5 coarse bolt is 483 lb ft. Dry bolt torque is approximately 30% higher - or 628 lb ft.

    Tdry = (483 lb ft) (1 + (30%) / (100%))

    = 628 lb ft

    If the bolt is lubricated with SAE 30 oil - the torque compared to a dry bolt is reduced with approximately 40%.

    TSAE30 = (628 lb ft) (1 - (40%) / (100%))

    = 377 lb ft

    Note that if torque specified for a dry or slightly oiled bolt torque is applied to a lubricated bolt - the bolt may overload and break.
     
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    Interesting, you guys have given me some new stuff to research. Learning is always good, thanks!
     
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