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2019 2.7 runs rough when cold

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by 1776Taco, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. Oct 21, 2019 at 6:45 AM
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    When you say hesitate / surge are you talking about at idle ?
     
  2. Oct 21, 2019 at 7:07 AM
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    I'm not familiar with the 2.7 or Toyota EFI in general since this is my first one (and I have the 3.5) but don't think it's a sensor issue. Looks like the truck runs fine when it's closed loop (using the sensors) but poorly in open loop and not using them. Does the computer adjust those tables (open) or are the set and only the closed are adjusted? Only reason I can think of it run poorly when cold but fine with warm.
     
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  3. Oct 21, 2019 at 7:21 AM
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    my truck runs fine on 87 octane with 15% corn alcohol, I think this situation has been way overthought the truck does need some time to get to operating temperature after it reaches that mine purrs like a kitten, the slight hesitation u feel is because of the drive by wire throttle control system combined with a low HP 4 cylinder engine, theres no immediate power on demand like a 6 or 8 cylinder engine would have.
     
  4. Oct 21, 2019 at 7:23 AM
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    I think he means the truck doesn't take off like a rocket ship, that's because its a 4 cylinder engine and a slow one at that
     
  5. Oct 21, 2019 at 7:31 AM
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    I just bought a 2.7 4x4 Sr and it’s transmission is a little quirky cold .....my friend at work said his is that way too and always has been...that’s for his 18 taco and 17 tundra trd sport....
     
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  6. Oct 21, 2019 at 7:37 AM
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    when it gets below 30 degrees or less mine has made some frightening noises at start up
     
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  7. Oct 21, 2019 at 8:22 AM
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    No, when I accelerate up to 40 MPH on the road I live on. It has a smooth idle.
     
  8. Oct 21, 2019 at 8:42 AM
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    I don’t think it’s been overthought at all. I’ve owned over a dozen vehicles some with over 300k miles on them and never ran crappy when cold. If it’s a gasoline issue in my truck then I can understand , maybe it doesn’t like bp or maybe I got some crappy gas. But I shouldn’t have to wait to let it warm up so it doesn’t run bad. Yes , I understand letting a vehicle warm up is better , but this is a brand new truck and I shouldn’t be experiencing these issues. Unless of course it doesn’t like bp. Then I get it.
     
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  9. Oct 21, 2019 at 9:17 AM
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    joined yesterday, new 3rd gen with unexplicable issue that no one else has ever encountered =
     
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  10. Oct 21, 2019 at 9:20 AM
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    Give it a chance and see what the dealer says. I too am Skeptical. But who knows.
     
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  11. Oct 21, 2019 at 9:23 AM
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    if you read the OPs 1st post he says he doesn't want the Dealer to poke around his truck to look at it and then have the dealer tell him its running normal,now what sense does that make, but he'll join a online community instead and ask for hypotheticals to fix it instead this story has more holes in it then the Iraqi Navy,
     
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  12. Oct 21, 2019 at 9:24 AM
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    Good point.
     
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    Gas in the following counties have RFG.
    The RVP of RFG is actually lower than areas with a summer blend.

    Bergen County
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  14. Oct 21, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    and for his next trick he'll show outrage towards anyone who questions his validity and use that as a dog whistle to start a online flame war, this is routine modus operandi
     
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    I could care less about what you think honestly. I have better things to do then to come onto a forum and just make up random shit. Good day.
     
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  17. Oct 27, 2019 at 6:47 AM
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    Been watching it closely these last few days . For whatever reason it didn’t do it a a day here or there but overall it’s still doing it. This morning I was carefully listening and as someone else described it as sounding like a baby sneezing. That’s the exact sound it made while missing. Going to go ahead and take it in soon.
     
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    Any update?
     
  19. May 27, 2020 at 7:59 AM
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    No. Still doing same thing. Haven’t bothered taking it to dealer. I eventually will and when I do I’ll update.
     
  20. May 27, 2020 at 12:59 PM
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    @1776Taco Do you happen to have an AFe cold air intake installed or some other CAI installed? I had no sputtering issue on a cold motor until after I installed my AFe CAI. I've even cleaned the MAF every 5k mile oil change. But mine will definitely buck first thing in the morning even after a 30-45 second warm up. Will buck a bit with anything over 20% throttle rolling out of the neighborhood until it's fully warmed up. Then it's back to it's usual quite reliable 2.7L self.
     
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