13wl brakes, Tundra brake mod

So as most of you are aware the big brake mod aka Tundra brake mod using 13wl calipers is a huge performance boost in braking power. When doing the mod a couple of issues come into play, the biggest being that the 13wl calipers use a hard line from the caliper to the bracket on the spindle/ steering knuckle. You can get around this by buying a compatible SS braided line from Wheelers, Toytec, etc. or by slightly drilling out the banjo fittings on the stock line. Having the hard line as an option generally makes the conversion easier and is imho more robust. I believe the only "aftermarket" option available that uses the hard line is the brake line upgrade kit from LCE and the markup is HUGE! I know many folks are well aware that our trucks share a very large list of compatible/ interchangeable parts with 3rd gen 4runners (96-02). The big brake upgrade is also very popular among 3rd gen owners and 3rd gen 4runners just happen to come stock with hard brake lines from the caliper to the spindle and they bolt up perfectly with the 13wl caliper. So if you need or would like hard lines all you need is the spindle bracket for each side, two clips (one for each side), and the actual hard lines. Below you'll find a pic of the part numbers required, keep in mind that when you order your front SS brake lines you'll need to order the options listed for a 96-02 4runner. Just trying to save folks some cash as I've seen people selling "kits" for a large markup.
EDIT CORRECTED PART#s
Passengers side hard line 47314-35330
Drivers side hard line 47316-35250
Spindle bracket 47351-35270 and 47352-35310
Flex hose clips 90468-08035

 

I just did the tundra brake upgrade I went with drilling my banjo bolt with a 1/4" bit and it was easy. I grabbed 13wl calipers off of a junked tundra for 40 bucks and remanufactured them for 15 bucks, Toyota sells a kit with new dust boots, rings, and seals. I then bought all oem pads, rotors, and shim kit for 280. All in all at $335 and it does make a world of difference.

 

OP. Can you check the image you uploaded? First two parts are the same and i would expect there to be a left and right side.

Also cross checking these with the parts from LCE they list the hard lines as with prices.

Right hard line 47315-0C010. $7.84
Left hard line 47318-0C010. $7.84
Right bracket 47351-35270. $7.66
Left bracket 47352-35310. $7.66
Hard line clip. 40968-A0007. $1.49

Wish i had done this instead of the banjo job. Not happy at all with the routing of the soft line down to the caliper. Never seemed to look right. My truck has a slight lift. Bummer part is if i re-do it i have to buy soft lines again... Live and learn.

 

Not really sure what you're getting at here.

Just get some Wheeler's SS braided lines and call it good. They're stainless, extended, the banjo bolt works, and they're not particularly expensive.

 

I'm in the process of upgrading my Tacoma to the Tundra brakes. I bought the wheelers SS brake lines with banjo bolt. I'm having an issue with the banjo bolt though. When I hand tighten the bolt, it bottoms out about 1/8" before making contact with the caliper. It's bottoming out on the inside fitting where the bolt is concaved. Do I need to modify Wheeler's banjo bolt to make it sit flush by cutting 1/8" off the bolt?

If not, if I wrench on the bolt without modifications, it will push the inside fitting down but will I damage the caliper?

 

There is a ferrule pressed in the caliper that prevents the banjo bolt from seating completely. Remove the ferrule.

 

I've read extensively about doing this upgrade and you're the first person that said to remove the ferrule. Is the ferrule not needed? Is it safe to remove? If people already modify the stock banjo bolt and drill the bolt to make it concaved, why remove the ferrule then? Sorry for the question but I'm not familiar with this mod.

 

The ferrule is only needed if you are using hard lines. The ferrule creates a mating surface for the hard line flare to be pressed against.
It's either or; remove the ferrule or drill the banjo bolt. They accomplish the same thing.

 

That makes sense. My Tacoma calipers don't have a ferrule. So, what do you recommend using to remove the ferrule?

 

Tacoma calipers would not have the ferrule as they are designed for use with a banjo bolt. The Tundra calipers are designed for the hard lines, and thus have the ferrule. That is why I advocate using the hard lines on the Tundra brake upgrade.
The ferrule can simply be removed with some needle nose pliers.

 

For mine i placed a crush washer on top of and below the Banjo bolt. Not sure if that was how it was supposed to be done but it worked. I did not have to modify things. It works but not what i think most do. The washers came with the Napa rebuilt calipers.

Like i said earlier i am not happy with the routing of the wheelers flex lines. They just do not seem to route right so i am looking to convert back to hard lines.

 

I would use a hard line but I have Solo Motorsports 3" spindles and they don't have a spot to install the bracket that transitions from soft to hard lines. What about installing Tundra extended SS brake lines? Has anyone tried that?

In the image below, is the spindle I similarly have but they're using an extended SS brake line without a banjo bolt.

 

That is a short flared fitting to a braided line; essentially a hard line connection. I would ask Solo where the purchased the fitting and do the same. You get the benefit of installing a “hard line” on the Tundra calipers with the flexibility of a braided hose.

 

Like the fittings shown here, connected to a braided line.

https://www.etrailer.com/Accessorie...MI-Oe3ttiz5QIVh7zACh3KaAPfEAQYGSABEgLGKfD_BwE


https://www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/our-blog/bid/76614/Brake-Line-Fitting-Identification-How-to

 

Heading over to Solo tomorrow to pick them up. I'll have an update.

 

Alright, I got rid of the Tacoma brake lines with banjo bolt and picked up Tundra brake lines from https://www.solomotorsports.com/

You won’t find these on their website but if you call them, ask for Bobby or Paul. Let them know that you’re doing the Tundra brake upgrade and they’ll set you up.

 

If they added the spindle attachment tab on the line, that would be the way to go for us with the stock spindles. That's perfect for your setup though.

 

Totally agree but it'll still work using the Tundra lines. You'll just use zip-ties to hold them down onto the stock spindle. If you're savvy with the welder, I'm sure you can make something.

 

A silly question, where did you get the little clips for the pins that hold the disc pads in? I went with the NAPA Eclipse(?) calipers and gathered the other bits online. I plan on a trip to Ace hardware and see what they have.

 

My NAPA Eclipse came with new pins and clips. May want to contact them. I did mine about 6 months ago.