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Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Oct 17, 2019 at 8:00 AM
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    crashngiggles

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    yes, I did move up from the 600 pounds brings to the 650 pounds Springs made by Bilstein for the 6112's. The pictures wouldn't give it any justice, but I will say this. I started off with the regular 6112's in the front and have them set on 4/4 with a quarter inch tophat spacer on the driver side for the lien. In the beginning, before I put anything on the truck, I got a exact 2 1/4" raise in the front. it never settled from that height until after I started adding things. After I put on the skid plate trio, and the front bumper (without the winch, btw, which I still have yet to get, and put on as well as sliders), I took measurements from before I put on the springs and after I put on the springs to see the difference. Keep in mind, these are only the front numbers and not the rear numbers since also moved from the medium Dakars to heavy dakars in the rear on the same day.

    original numbers before I put on any armor -
    driver-side from the hub up - 22"
    passenger-side from the hub up - 22 5/8"

    with armor added -
    with 600lb springs before 650 lb Springs-
    driver-side from the hub up- 21 1/4"
    passenger side from the hub up - 21 5/8"

    after the 650 pound Springs installed -
    driver-side from the hub up - 21 3/4"
    passenger side from the hub up - 22 1/4"

    They have not settled from that point. It appears that it when up a half an inch and have not settled in the past couple of months since I put it on. so it appears that I dropped down three quarters of an inch on the driver side, and one full inch on the passenger side after the armor was put on. Then I went up a half an inch after the 650 pounds Springs were installed. I did not change the top at nor did I change the 4/4. I didn't want to see if I went up to high after installing them if I changed them to 5/5. I might go up to 5/5 with the wench and sliders added on though. I would still only recommend those specific springs made by Bilstein and not upgrade them to the 700 eibach Springs as other people have recognizing that it would void the 6112's warranty and it would be too much spring tension for the shock itself. This is also expressly recommended by Bilstein even though some manufacturers will install the 700lb springs for certain people.
     
  2. Oct 17, 2019 at 8:07 AM
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    ucdbiendog

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    perfect, thanks! guess i'll be ordering the 650lb spring haha. right now i got some serious rake after adding the bumper. did you use the truck as your spring compressor? I am a little worried that the initial compression will cause the assembly to bow out, but not as worried as say using spring compressors.
     
  3. Oct 17, 2019 at 8:10 AM
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    crashngiggles

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    I had taken them off of the truck and used spring compressor. This is highly recommended. make sure that you do get a very good compressor and not a Harbor freight special lol
     
  4. Oct 17, 2019 at 8:32 AM
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    yeah i have both a set of the harbor freight ones and ones from oreilllys which had much better build quality (and slightly lower profile to make them easier to remove). i had a HELL of a time getting them off once everything was compressed, not to mention some slight contact with the shock body. I figured with the higher spring rate, it will be even harder
     
  5. Oct 23, 2019 at 7:05 PM
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    Sway bar or No sway bar?

    I was testing out tire clearance by flexing out the truck and noticed the sway bar is making contact with the spring seat.

    Should I take out the sway bar?
     
  6. Oct 23, 2019 at 7:13 PM
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    Jba uca's, bilstein's 6112 and 5125 Alcan 2" rear springs, wheeler's super bumpstops. Michelins defenders 265/75/16
    They make some sway bar relocation spacers that will probably take care of your issue.
     
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  7. Oct 23, 2019 at 7:15 PM
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    Took me and a friend like 12 hours which also included rear leaf packs and shocks
     
  8. Oct 24, 2019 at 5:52 AM
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    There is a lot of discussion on here about this.

    Personnally, I am running 700lb springs without a sway bar. I get a little lean in the curves, but nothing uncontrollable. Much better ride, and of course, off-road.

    It is a very personal decision.
     
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  9. Oct 24, 2019 at 5:54 AM
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    I drive traffic too often with mine, and with a RTT throwing the center of gravity off, I kept my sway bar on.
     
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  10. Oct 24, 2019 at 6:33 AM
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    All great things to consider. Thanks.

    95% of the time I use my truck for city commuting and the other 5% for off-roading or camping with a RTT.

    I’m leaning towards taking the sway bar off given my use and all your feedback.
     
  11. Oct 24, 2019 at 12:19 PM
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    How thick are the sway bar relocation spacers? I get the same contact once in a while and it seems simple enough to make a set
     
  12. Oct 24, 2019 at 12:25 PM
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  13. Oct 24, 2019 at 3:56 PM
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    Took the sway bar off to test it out. It sways quite a bit now at low speed turns. Yet to test it out on high speed turns. Will update later.

    @stun_gun still not ready to throw it on the neighbors lawn yet.
     
  14. Oct 28, 2019 at 5:38 PM
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    Do you have a 2” AAL? Did you buy the shock extension?
     
  15. Oct 31, 2019 at 12:56 AM
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    Kind of a noob question but maybe someone can help. I have the 6112/5160 set up and have the front set for 1.5 inches of lift. Just got 285 70 17 installed and I’m going to raise the front to 2 inches so far the only thing rubbing are the flares but the not cab mount. So my question is if don’t rub at regular driving on the the cab mount will I rub when I go off road from the flex?
     
  16. Oct 31, 2019 at 3:09 AM
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    Well, look at it this way. When you are on the road, you are less likely to use your suspension going up-and-down. When you go off road, you are more likely to use the suspension more which will Inevitably bring the tire closer to the truck, its parts, and the frame, especially at full chock.
     
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  17. Oct 31, 2019 at 3:36 AM
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    Yeah I figured just to do the cmc and be on the safe side. It prob has a 1/8th if clearance but under flex I’m sure it will rub
     
  18. Oct 31, 2019 at 2:23 PM
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    I found a set of third gen 6112’s (with 6 clip settings) on 6/5 and 650lb springs. I have a 2015 dcsb so I am wondering what clip setting I should go with to get 2” roughly of lift.

    If anyone has a link please post it. Thanks!!
     
  19. Oct 31, 2019 at 6:43 PM
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  20. Nov 1, 2019 at 7:35 AM
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    You can always go do some flexing out on something. My friends shop has a cement ramp to a loading dock and we can use it to slowly creep up and have someone outside to watch the clearance.
     
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