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Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by bentenna, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. Nov 5, 2019 at 3:27 PM
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    Classic 3rd gen owner comment.:jerkoff:
     
  2. Nov 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM
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    indeed, i think it does :devil:

    the former is most likely 'user error'
     
  3. Nov 5, 2019 at 3:30 PM
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    You're lugging the motor. That's the problem.

    You're trying to dump too much fuel/air into the combustion chamber by mashing on the throttle in too high of a gear.
     
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  4. Nov 5, 2019 at 7:20 PM
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    Louisiana is a state that offers octane 91 w/o ethanol. WOOHOO:woot: WOOHOO:woot: WOOHOO:woot: WOOHOO:woot: WOOHOO:woot:WOOHOO:woot:WOOHOO:woot:
     
  5. Nov 5, 2019 at 7:38 PM
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    yes, once in awhile there is a traffic situation that i have to gauge what gear i need to be in with how fast i approximate I am going at the time (usually slowing down and then picking speed back up), I cannot look down at speedometer and still keep the eyes on the road for safety while adjusting gears in some situations
     
  6. Nov 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM
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    at this point, you should be able to "feel" when to shift your truck. speed has almost nothing to do with it. if you "think" you might need a lower gear, put it in a lower gear, there is no downside to this. on my motorcycle I rarely ever look at the speedo and just feel how the bike is reacting to throttle input, and shift accordingly
     
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  7. Nov 6, 2019 at 6:45 AM
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    Sometimes a shift isn't needed if you can feather the clutch and gas a little more to get it moving to a more suitable RPM before you fully release the clutch.
     
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  8. Nov 6, 2019 at 6:46 AM
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    i have always relied more on my brakes to stop with transmission disengaged than the 'engine braking' of downshifting to stop, am i weird to do it this way :notsure:
    that means most of the time the engine is idling while i am coming to a stop or slowing down abruptly? while the truck is coasting and all i can 'feel' is how fast it is slowing down on the pavement and try to judge accordingly
     
  9. Nov 6, 2019 at 6:51 AM
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    I don't recommend this in winter when road surfaces are questionable. It's also not very safe to be out of gear in case you need to accelerate out of a situation.
     
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  10. Nov 6, 2019 at 7:54 AM
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    Riding a clutch? Why, It takes sub-second to downshift. I don't know how is with 3.4 but my 2.7 starts accelerating at 2k rpm - not great acceleration but it does not lag. At 2.5k rpm it starts kicking ass.

    It was just today I got stuck again behind a box truck doing 50mph in 55 zone. At 50mph I cruise on 5th gear but I found the opening so after downshift to 4th I started to pass. While on the left lane I noticed I did not get enough acceleration for the road remaining so while accelerating I downshifted to 3rd, and finished the passing not even hitting 5k rpm. Back on my lane I short shifted back to 5th enjoying my audio book. Can't do it with diesel.

    On the third gear at 60mph that 24 years old truck has some guts. I never messed with transmission oil change, but even after 321k miles it shifts like new, so changing gears (especially 3-4-5) is just a "click".

    What I'm trying to say is do not be afraid to use 3rd gear. My favorite :).
     
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  11. Nov 6, 2019 at 8:59 AM
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    My truck (3.4) takes off in first with no gas if I release slow enough. It's a 5 lug so the gearing is perfect for the street.
     
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  12. Nov 6, 2019 at 4:51 PM
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    As @frizzman said, speed is irrelevant. You should be able to hear your engine and be able to gauge when you should shift.

    I remember my '97 5-lug was a poverty spec, in that it had no options other than being an extracab. No power anything, 5 speed, etc... Didn't even have a tachometer. Sounds odd for a 5 speed to not have a tach, but honestly, you shouldn't need to look at a gauge to tell you when to shift.

    Also, when slowing down, you should be down shifting as you slow down, too. If anything use the gears to help you slow down rather than relying entirely on the brakes to slow you down. Obviously a quick stop or slow down that's not always possible.
     
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  13. Nov 6, 2019 at 4:54 PM
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    Yes, you are, lol.

    Back in high school my friend did the same thing. His dad had taught him to use the brakes and save the transmission because brakes are easy/cheap to fix. I eventually asked him which was more CRITICAL to have fully functioning, a transmission, or your brakes?

    In other words: when are you more likely to die, if your brakes overheat and fail, or your transmission gives out.
     
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    Meh...

    These aren't motocross bikes. You don't need to slip the clutch to keep it on the pipe in a corner.

    Just shift. Preserve your clutch.
     
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    I cannot 'hear' the engine if it is basically idling while i am assessing the traffic situation, this usually happens in 2nd gear in stop-n-go, so very slow moving, its like i should throw it into 1st but i just don't feel like i am going slow enough or whatever and that unnatural revving and jerking of everything wont make it happy if it can be happy i am happy

    i do usually downshift or at least coast off the freeway and not ride the brakes, usually pump them often, i have only had one set of front brake pads put on in 22.5 years
     
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  16. Nov 6, 2019 at 5:09 PM
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    The DT conversion was about 10K 12-13 yrs. ago when i got my Taco. so i was tempted, just to be the only one y'know. Fuel prices peaked about then and diesel shot up to a dollar more a gallon than gas. I backed off the idea. I'm very glad I did now.


    I mean it would have been cool but overall.....nah. Moneydown the drain in the long run...and that was 10 grand.
     
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  17. Nov 6, 2019 at 6:32 PM
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    Regardless of what's being kicked around in here with your driving style, I have complete confidence you know what you're doing in that truck-I know I and my truck have been attached at the hip since it was born and from what I recall it's the same with you. This means you've been gear jamming in that truck for over two decades right? Based upon that, who the hell here has a right to call your driving skills into question?
     
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  18. Nov 6, 2019 at 6:39 PM
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    Hey, you got your style, I got mine.
     
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    i am not frustrated or anything like that, probably just not aging very well and should re-learn a few things!
    traffic school here i come, so that I can stop these idiots trying to get on the freeway from always slowing down soon after I am courteously slowing down to let them merge in with traffic

    i think this all stemmed from me trying to figure out if the higher octane fuel reduces/eliminates any pinging at very low rpms in 2nd gear
     
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  20. Nov 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM
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    Ok, I see your point. I like the simplicity of an older diesel engine, no wires but a starter and an kill solenoid. But thats getting away from the point of the thread. I wouldnt spend 30 grand on a diesel swapped Tacoma, thats for sure. But I think it would be cool to swap in a small diesel myself, as it would get killer mpg's. I'm not racing around town so I dont mind to go slower. I guess it comes down to personal preference.
     
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