Issues with Tacoma 3rd Gen Clutch

Came across this tread cuz my 17 has chatter in 1st. Dealer is replacing under warranty but I will have to pay for the machining of the fly wheel.i will also pay for a new slave.

The op I'm sorry about your truck, looks like abuse too me

 

My first gen lasted to 330k and it went off like a bomb took out the input shaft also lol. Normally with a good driver, maybe some floating you'll get 150-200k. These clutches on the 6 speeds are LUK not aisin which last longer

 

How much are they gonna charge you?

 

They use a local machine shop, flat rate of $300, plus the slave

 

That's a good deal

 

any new updates? its been 3.5 months since u were last logged in

 

So I'm in the exact same situation as OP. 2017 TRD Sport with 26K miles and yesterday out of no where the clutch started slipping in all gears. It feels like the friction plate isn't fully re-engaging when you release the clutch pedal. I was able to pull out if and put to into next gear without touching the clutch pedal. I've been driving stick for over 15 years and I take care of my truck. I asked dealership to check the master cylinder etc because something must be wrong. They said all hydraulics seem working fine so must be worn down clutch plate, which of course Toyota warranty doesn't cover because they claim it's normal wear and tear. I asked them if they've ever heard of an experienced driver killing a brand new clutch in 26K miles before, and they said "Well I see your truck has an aftermarket suspension and off-roading can wear down a clutch."
So they have yet to even see the friction plate, and to tear down the trans to look at it will be $1300 in labor. I'm extremely unhappy and depressed about this as my new Tacoma has converted me to a Toyota fan boy I love that truck. But if Toyota thinks it's possible to wear down a brand new clutch in two years, they're batshit insane. A pissed off 16 year old learning to drive stick for first time couldn't wear down a clutch to full slipping in 26K miles. If they don't take care of me on this I'll have to sell the truck (I'm not replacing the clutch every two years) and I'll never buy Toyota again not will any of my family.

 

What did you end up doing mate?
My tacoma with 19k miles just slipped the clutch as well, and I've been driving manual for over 14 years..

 

Definitely friction plate started to come apart, the question is why though. If the clutch were fully engaged at the time, I would suspect a hydraulic issue could have been the culprit. The clutch shouldn't have been spinning at all relative to the flywheel at that point. Something had to give in order for it to come apart like that while driving. If he were taking off and it happened that would be an entirely different story

 

I’ve seen people/customers burn a clutch up in less than 300 miles. So yes, a pissed off 16 year old could easily burn multiple clutches out in 26k. I personally know a few people who have in fact done this.

 

Just for the record, if you buy a URD clutch that clutch actually DOES come with a lifetime warranty so if you somehow manage to burn that one up you just have to pay labor to reinstall it! Just food for thought for everyone who may have similar clutch issues

 

that u took it out already your already screwed your self .they wont touch it now that it was taken apart . I would just invest in a heavy duty clutch .cheap Toyota parts .

 

So I ended up paying a mechanic to install a URD stage 2 clutch and heavy flywheel as well as new throw out bearing. He charged me $800 for the labor. Problem is that I think he skipped something because there's only about 2 inches of engagement zone in the clutch pedal before it is fully engaged. So when I start to push the pedal in, it goes about 5-6 inches (like 4 inches away from fully pressed in) with no effect at all. There should always be an inch or so of play when you start to press it in, but now the clutch doesn't start to disengaged until the clutch pedal is over half way pressed in.
I don't know if it's the mechanics fault but I'd guess it is. Also, Toyota did the creaky clutch TSB just before he replaced the clutch and I'm wondering if maybe they didn't bleed the hydraulic line correctly? Either way, this whole thing cost me $1800 and now driving my truck in traffic (I live and work near DC and drive one hour each way when I go into office) is fucking terrible and I hate everything when driving now. I used to LOVE driving my MT everywhere, even in traffic. But now when the car stopped in front of me pulls forward 20ft, it's hard to keep the truck from lurching forward because the stage 2 clutch and heavy flywheel and lack of pedal engagement zone means that, when the pedal is fully depressed the clutch is 0% engaged, and then at 1 inch out it starts to bite hard and at 2-3 inches it's 100% engaged so the truck jumps forward and/or bogs down 1st gear.
I'm super depressed about all this. I know the clutch dying was not my fault, but I've learned from Toyota HQ that it is literally impossible to prove there's a defect. Even when you mention all these similar cases like OP's and those subscribed. At this point I'm actually leaning hard towards selling my truck and getting a ZR2. I just hope someone else sees this and avoids the MTs in the new Tacomas. Or at least avoid them if you're into off-roading, because no matter how experienced you are, they will blame that for any clutch issues.

 

Im at 20k kms, clutch feels good. I hope this shit doesnt happen to me. Never had to replace clutch on any of my previous vehicles.

I did the ADM few months ago and it feels like it slips less, no shudder when starting up hills. So happy i did it.

Maybe it could be due to that POS accumulator.

Good luck man.

 

Should have resurfaced stock flywheel.

 

Yeah I've never had to replace a clutch before. I think that's normal for most that know how to drive them well.
I haven't done the ADM yet, but I wanted to. Now I don't know if it would make it better or worse. After all the research I've done and bullshit I've been told, one of the only remaining viable causes of these issues is the accumulator. It's the only variable I'm not used to or aware of exactly how it affects the transmission.

 

How would that change the experience?

 

So you’ve never taken it back to get the clutch adjusted? Why.

 

Not sure on a 3rd gen but my 1st gen had an adjustable pushrod between the pedal and the clutch master. 12mm jam nut on it. I imagine it is the same. Crack that nut loose and lengthen that rod to get back to 1-2 inches of play at the top of pedal travel.
As the clutch disc wears the fingers on the pressure plate stick up higher and take up that play. Some techs and owners adjust that rod as it wears. New clutch disc means you have to adjust that rod back.

 

The accumulator restricts the clutch fluid flow during engagement. It is meant to slow the speed and maybe be smoother for newbs. But, I found that it just messes it all up.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/mt-accumulator-delete-mod-adm-and-bs-thread.568303/

You can see pics of it at the end of the 1st Post.