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LT or P rated wildpeaks?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 757yotas, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Nov 10, 2019 at 5:05 PM
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    winkel

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    It will mostly boil down to personal preference but my two cents...
    I keep my vehicles a long time. I had my '98 4x4 T-100 for 17 years and 267,000 miles. I had Michelins, General Grabbers, Yokohamas and then more Michelins. On my last set of Michelins (the Defenders before they were defenders, MS+2 I think) I went with the LTs. I regretted it. Yes they were tougher but I took a gas mileage hit and the ride was noticeably more harsh. I know, different truck, but similar weight truck.
    If you don't off-road hard, P-rated will be fine in my opinion. I currently have Michelin Defenders on my Taco in P flavor and they are excellent tires. I want something a little more aggressive next time and as of right now, I'm planning on buying the Falkens in the P series.
    A few years back, there was a lot of talk about guys switching their dirtbikes over to trials tires. They weren't very aggressive with respect to tread pattern, but they could air down and get really good traction over a lot of surfaces, even mud. I think the same principle applies here.
    Again, just another opinion, but the P-rated will ride better and won't hurt your gas mileage. I get the best wear out of a set of tires running about 35 in the front and 32 in the back. If I'm going to haul something heavy, I'll air the rears up to 40.
     
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  2. Nov 10, 2019 at 5:49 PM
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    P-rated michelins have taken my various work trucks to hell and back. I've never wished I had "more tire." In most situations it's going to be "more winch" or "more D8" regardless of the tire you are using.

    Everyone always likes to talk about the ideal tire for the small percentage of time they are actually off-roading. What about the stuff you do MOST?
     
  3. Nov 10, 2019 at 6:02 PM
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    Like, so many.
    I have p rated tires (NRGs) and they’ve handled off roading just fine.
     
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  4. Nov 12, 2019 at 1:14 PM
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    Welp, gonna see how the 265/75r16 Falken Wildpeaks A/T3W 10plys are gonna be.
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  5. Nov 13, 2019 at 7:47 PM
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    My two cents on P vs E. I drive 45-55k a year for work and have done so over the last 12 years. I am a sales rep in the heavy construction industry. Lots of highway time and daily stints down muddy job sites. I had half ton fleet trucks that the company paid for and usually I got the Goodyear wrangler Kevlars on the fleet plan in P rating. Fine tire and I usually got about 50k out of them. I would also get about 2-3 nails a year in them.

    Fast forward to 2.5 years ago and my company gets acquired and we move to a vehicle stipend. I buy a Tacoma because it is the cheapest pickup per mile. It came with a set of E rated Hankooks and about 60k ago I put on E K02s. In 125k of the same driving I have YET to pickup a nail. What really sealed the deal for me was driving on 80 in NJ. I see a bunch of cars on the side of the road and cars darting everywhere. The BMW in front of me dives right and I see a 4x4 laying across my lane. My Tacoma is not a BMW and I can’t dodge it. A truck lost a stack of dunnage and it is everywhere. I roll over 3 4”x4””-8’ lengths of lumber at 75mph and pull over with everyone else expecting to see bent metal under the truck and blow/ballooned our sidewalks. 20-30 people were on the side of the road with multiple flat tires and I had nothing broken. I was shocked. A dozen other trucks and SUVs and 1/2 tons were there with multiple flat P tires and and I drove away.
     
  6. Nov 14, 2019 at 7:32 AM
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    Same here! I really want a lighter tire b/c I love reducing rotational weight. I have duratracs in the heavier variant and have never picked up a nail either. I kinda thought that was dumb luck more than the tire rating. And this is over 10 years w/ the truck on the same tires (2 diff sets). But since mabepossibly mentioned it, is there something to it? Right now I'm also going through the trouble of my right rear tire losing air pressure every 3-4 days. As in....it'll go down to 0 if I don't refill it. No nails in it, so I'm assuming it's either a leaking valve or something isn't sealing properly against the rim for some reason. Regardless, even w/ 0 air pressure, it hasnt left me stranded.
    I guess theres arguments for both. Neither will be a bad choice, will be the absolute perfect tire at some point, and maybe the absolute worst tire choice at some point too.
     
  7. Nov 14, 2019 at 9:24 AM
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    mabepossibly

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    I’m sure they aren’t nail proof. But a tire that has an extra 10lbs of steel in it is certainly less likely to have penetrations.
     
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  8. Nov 14, 2019 at 1:09 PM
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    I buy p-rated tires with a replacement warranty. I’ve had to use it once in 120,000 miles of on and off road driving.

    If you assume a 2mpg hit with e vs p that adds up to nearly 4,000 dollars over the course of 120k miles.

    That would have paid for ALL of your routine maintenance during that time frame AND an extra set of tires.

    Again - we spend so much time worrying about the 1% scenario that we complete compromise the 99%.
     
  9. Nov 14, 2019 at 3:13 PM
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    I'm rolling on LT265/70r18 Falken wildpeaks, I know it's a bigger tire than the OP, but I can tell you that I took about a 2 MPG loss, [also 3" lift] and yes they are heavy and hard and a little harsh on the highway. I wanted a tougher tire and also taller, the LT's are just that, do I need them, nah, but I like them, I've been running E load tires on my last taco and this one now, that's 3 sets, 2 falkens and 1 cooper. Whatever melts your butter, P range is obviously lighter, better mileage, and if you don't go off on rough terrain you should be fine with the P rated tires. Good Luck
     
  10. Nov 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM
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    I’m not going to read every page but on the first page there was no mention of the compound and tread depth difference.

    These aren’t just more ply vs. less ply.

    The standard load tires have a softer silica rubber compound that makes them better in the snow/ice/wet.

    The LT rated tired do NOT have that same rubber compound but they DO have a deeper tread depth for better traction off road and better wear life.

    So if you’re primary purpose is driving in the snow and on the highway and secondary is off road, get the P rated or whatever they are.

    If you don’t drive on ice much and want more tread depth get the E.

    That said, no need for harsh riding E rated tires or any kind for a daily driver Tacoma. That’s for those who actually need it.
     
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  11. Nov 15, 2019 at 2:56 PM
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    I have the 52 pound p285/70/17 at3w tires on 17x7 SR5 4Runner wheels. Thank goodness I have 4.30 gears. I wouldn’t be able to live with it otherwise.
     
  12. Nov 15, 2019 at 5:26 PM
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    I have P rated 265/75R16 on my 2015 and they ride super good. Way better than those hard E rated duratracs that came off of it. I ride on the beach 4 times a year and air down to 15-20 psi and they’ve done great. That’s about as “offroad ” as my daily driver is going to get.
     
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  13. Nov 15, 2019 at 6:06 PM
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    I have E rated Nittos right now and want to go the P rated 285 wildpeaks next. I only do beach driving a few times a year like you and a few dirt paths for hunting but that is all the offroading I do anymore now that I moved back to VA
     
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  14. Nov 15, 2019 at 6:16 PM
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    I just put the P Wildpeaks on in 265/75-16 a month ago and they ride nice on the road. I expect them to wear a little fast due to the compound, but I’m good with that.
     
  15. Nov 15, 2019 at 8:52 PM
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    That bad? I have a 2nd gen with stock gears. Just ordered a set of p285/70/17 wildpeaks.
     
  16. Nov 16, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    I’m highly sensitive to changes in performance on my vehicles. When I still had my stock gears I ran p285 terra grapplers and roughly 300 pounds of tools in the bed. Mpg has always sucked, but the truck still had decent power. Made the switch and I immediately noticed a big difference in performance. The at3w looks amazing even in the p version. With that said this tire is like a step away from being a mud tire. The tread is pretty narly and will absolutely cause power loss and mpg loss. I hate being a party pooper but it’s the truth.
     
  17. Nov 16, 2019 at 7:57 AM
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    I bought my current Taco in August. It came with new tires from the dealer. Linglong Crosswind AT in load range E.

    So far they seem like pretty good tires. With new 5100s and new leaf springs, I can live with the ride quality. Not bad for a truck.

    Oh yeah, fuel economy seems about like my old 05 so far. Hopefully 17-18 most of the time.
     
  18. Nov 16, 2019 at 6:12 PM
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    Just strapped the LT's on my daily driver, smooth ride very quite compared to the p rated nokian rotiva AT i had, love the tire. Took it for a spin on the beach and performed excellent.
     
  19. Nov 16, 2019 at 7:00 PM
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    what size?
     
  20. Nov 16, 2019 at 11:47 PM
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