First snow and winter tires

The AT3 does have the mountain snowflake rating.

 

Different strokes for different folks. Ive been driving everyday for the last week or so. No problems whatsoever with the factory goodyear tires that come on the TRD offroad.

 

235/85 r16 Falken Wildpeak M/T01. No traction issues whatsoever. Clearance...another topic.

 

255/85/16 should help you out

 

Exactly. Only winter tires have the soft rubber needed to do well in all winter conditions . The tread design for AT tires may be reasonable for some conditions and even earn a good rating in some conditions, but as soon as the temperature makes the rubber too hard to grip ice or flex enough to throw snow, they can be useless.

Winter weather temperatures vary greatly and with it, opinions on some AT tires will vary as well. Only dedicated winter tires that must be changed as he weather warms, have a chance on being consistent winter tires. There are some newer ones out now that have both soft and hard rubber compounds, all weather tires,... but as yet, they haven’t made a huge impact with the Taco heads.

regardless, make sure you add at least 300 safe lbs to the bed of a Taco for winter driving.

 

Yeah, I may bite the bullet and do that. I just got these but the extra 1" would be helpful. Gotta do the exhaust reroute first.

 

Drove over Carson pass (CA) on Wednesday through a pretty strong winter storm. Stock gy AT’s did better than I thought they would.

 

They are a ‘sleeper’ tire (if anyone even knows what that term means anymore). I’ve contemplated getting the LT rated version after my kBros wear out. The LT version of the Wrangler Adventure Kevlar has greater tread depth. The only downside to the Wrangler Kevlars is they are expensive.

Toyota actually did a lot of people a favour fitting these tires to the trucks. They are not a crazy off road tire, but they are a very good compromise tire that does a lot of stuff surprisingly well.

 

What was the air temp, 25-30 degrees? At that temp the stock GY tires will work just fine, anything below they are sketchy as all hell. I wish Michelin would make a winter x-ice tire in either 265/75/16 or 255/85/16

 

It was about 13°F this morning while running errands the Goodyear wranglers were definitely not "sketchy as hell".

 

Agree.

 

I’m talking about those mornings driving up to the mtn when it’s 0 and below

 

Coming down he mountain is what really separates good winter tires from the pretenders. Looks like you have a great “ test lab.”

 

I think what most on this thread are missing, is temperature.

Once well below freezing, you might be good to go on bald summer tires. I did this 2 winters in Calgary.

Rear wheel drive 1970 Firebird Formula 400 muscle car, summer tires, no weight in the back, never spun a tire in 2 winters. Snow is dry and crunches under your wheels. Just grabs your tires. Temps seldom above 20F in the 2 winters I spent there.

Drive Vancouver BC in 2 different 4x4s with snow tires and 500 pounds of weight in the back, at temps near freezing, roads 1-2 inches of ice, and harrowing. I could barely get around, had to be VERY cautious. Terrible, no tire gets traction on those conditions.

i used to laugh when drivers in 4x4s would come down from northern BC to Vancouver at winter, with the attitude "these city folks cant drive in the winter". Those northern BC drivers, getting around no issue at -20 in the snow, all finding themselves in the ditch in Vancouver before they even get a chance to get used to the different conditions. Over confidence. My uncle one of those. First trip to Vancouver, "ah I have been driving in the snow for 60 years, I have the experience." He was in the ditch first day in Vancouver when 3 inches of snow and ice hit the roads. After that, he swore he would never drive in the snow in Vancouver ever again. I tried to tell him this is not your northern dry snow, this is ice. He learned the hard way.

i find too many driving 4x4s are generally over confident in their skills and their trucks ability.

Here in Kelowna BC, most of the vehicles spun out into ditches on the roadside, or upside down on the highway, almost without exception are 4x4 trucks. The truck does not the driver make...

 

So you are saying arrogance and egos lead to stupid mistakes?

 

Arrogance, egos and ignorance..