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Real world value of 2011 Tacoma?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 1moonshine2, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. Nov 23, 2019 at 8:58 PM
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    1moonshine2

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    A little update. I went to a local Toyota dealer, and they will give me $15,000 for my truck, cash or trade. So, if I do this, I'll trade with them, no use trying to sell it myself, probably get no more for it, and won't have to go through all the hassle.

    I drove a 4 cylinder Taco with the auto, and I can see why some say the transmission sucks. It wants to lug in lockup, and too high a gear nearly all the time, and you have to really get on the throttle for a downshift. Also, why does the thing "unload" with every shift? I've never seen a drive train do that before. It's like the ECU cuts power for a fraction of a second with every shift. Do they all do that???
    I'll be going back, and drive a V6, and a Camry. They have a TRD Camry there, and that's what I'd get. I don't want the 4 cyl, and the TRD is the cheapest way to get the V6. I see no sense in paying nearly $5000 more for the XSE, and all that fancy stuff I don't even want. Still going to talk to the Ford dealer, and try out an F150.

    I don't get all the auto test writers complaining about the Taco riding rough. I though it rode, and drove very good, definitely better than my 2011. The 4 cyl is weak, and the transmission is stubborn, but it's a much nicer truck than the 2nd gens. I'm still a bit dubious about a Ford. I looked one over good at work, and it looks like a maintenance nightmare. I don't think the turbos could be replaced without lifting the body off. I've also seen too many mechanics say they would still pick a Toyota regardless of the frame rust. Dealer assures me that the rust issue is over, but true, or false???
     
  2. Nov 24, 2019 at 4:20 AM
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    In Kansas where I live there is a 9.6% sales tax, if you trade a car in on another one you are credited that amount of sales tax saving, don't know about the rules where you are but if same could save a lot.
     
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  3. Nov 24, 2019 at 7:51 AM
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    Gosh, These Taco prices keep amazing me. That dealer offered you more for your 2011 than I paid for my 2013 reg cab 4X4, from a dealer, 1 1/2 yrs ago. Also, I bought my old 1998 reg cab 4X4 in 2010, from a dealer. I totaled it in 2018 & the ins. co. wrote me a check for more than I had paid for it in 2010, plus let me keep the truck that was still drivable. Shoot, how far is this going to go? Congrats on having a great old Taco, & best of luck with your impending decision.
     
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  4. Nov 24, 2019 at 7:54 AM
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    Not in Va. We have a 4.17% title tax that's paid at the time of the sale, you don't get it back. The next buyer of my truck will have to pay that tax based on the current sale price. Must be paid every timeyou buy a vehicle, new or used. Va also has a personal property car tax. If I get my new vehicle after Jan-1-2020, I can save some on a year's depreciation, the taxed is based on value at Jan-1 of the
    current tax year.
     
  5. Nov 24, 2019 at 7:58 AM
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    How many miles were on your 2013 when you bought it? My dealer told me they have never gotten a truck the age of mine with that few miles. The miles and condition I think were the main factors.

    Yes, the price of used vehicles is indeed ridiculous, and new ones, not far behind.
    That you can put well over $50,000 in a half ton pickup, is shocking...
     
  6. Nov 25, 2019 at 11:04 AM
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    Regular cab will cut off a LOT of potential buyers. The reason they don't offer them any more is because they don't sell well.
    "Sliding rear window" contradicts "base model", as it is a component of SR5.
     
  7. Nov 25, 2019 at 12:00 PM
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    15K. Wow. I would jump all over that . That seems way too high considering I see used vehicles, same specs as yours going for considerably less.
     
  8. Nov 25, 2019 at 2:43 PM
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    Sorry, I never meant to imply mine was as low mi. as yours, heck mine had 70K when I bought it. Your low mi. is eye catching & worth more, but I wouldn't think it would be an outlandish amount of $$$ difference, especially to a dealer who is bidding. Yep, way less mkt. for the reg. cabs. It takes a special person, "Like Me", to really appreciate the reg. cab. If I couldn't drive a reg. cab, I think I'd just take a cab!!!
     
  9. Nov 25, 2019 at 5:33 PM
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    It's not an SR5. The sliding window, and the wheels (they are steel, but not base wheels) were part of an available package. My local dealer got this truck from a Richmond area dealer, I didn't
    even know it had the sliding window/wheel package until I went to pick it up. I know, only Ford still offers regular cab pickups, and I bet they don't for much longer. I have no need of anything
    other than a regular cab, though.

    I am going to jump on that, and if I had something else to drive, I would have left it there Saturday, and taken the check. However, it's the only vehicle I have, and I still have to decide what I'm going
    to get. I have it down to a Camry TRD, Tacoma SR access cab V6, maybe 4x4, maybe 4x2, F-150 reg cab, short bed, 2.7 ecoboost, 4x4 or 4x2. I can still get a "work truck F-150", black vinyl floor, no
    power windows, no radar, no nav, etc. I don't need or want all that junk, just something else to go wrong. Unfortunately, the Camry, and Tacoma come with much of that, I guess that's why they
    cost nearly as much as a work model F-150. I still don't know if I trust Ford or not, but they do have an excellent drivetrain, IF it's reliable. That 10 speed is hard to beat. On the other hand, I don't
    trust Toyota as much as I used to, they have cheap skated on one too many things lately, rusty frames, failing emissions equipment, plastic coolant pipes, etc. Sadly, just not what they once were.
     
  10. Nov 25, 2019 at 5:58 PM
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    You are all over the place man. Why exactly do you want to sell the Tacoma. It wasnt apparent after reading your posts.
     
  11. Nov 25, 2019 at 6:05 PM
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    All these posts and not one picture? Cmon man !
     
  12. Nov 25, 2019 at 6:26 PM
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    Yeah, I'm with Mike. You know what you have & seem to be well satisfied, even happy with. Now you are forcing yourself into decisions car, truck, 4X4, 4X2, 6 cyl., 4 cyl, Ford, Toyota, (that you say have cheap skated things on since 2011). If you're getting rid of it, only because it will fetch a, what seems today to be a good price, Why??? Keep what you got, enjoy it & be proud of it & you know you are happy, trade or sell & buy, & you're wondering if you'll be happy. I drove my old "98" Taco for 10 yrs. & was always completely happy, now I have this 2013 Taco & can't say I'm happy with it. Decisions, decisions, & good luck.
     
  13. Nov 25, 2019 at 7:28 PM
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    in northern virginia, a truck like yours will sell for around $25k.
     
  14. Nov 25, 2019 at 7:59 PM
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    I'm not happy with it, if I was I wouldn't be looking at other options. I'm sick of the manual transmission, and will not likely ever buy another. Not overly impressed with the 4cyl either, it's weak. I drove a 2019 4cyl auto, 2wd, it's even worse, what ever I buy, it won't be another 4cyl, these trucks are too heavy for that, and so is the Camry. Camry might have 206 hp, but only makes a few more lbs torque than the Tacoma, and that's what's important, especially in a heavier vehicle. When I figure power to weight ratio, I use torque, not horsepower. The V6 Camry is no slouch, however.

    Toyota build and design quality has been going downhill for years, not just since 2011. Even Scotty Kilmer, aka "Mr. buy a Toyota", admits that. No excuse for 20+ years of frame rust problems, either.
    Toyota is maybe still better than anything else in the affordable range, but only marginally so, not nearly what is was 30 years ago.

    If I didn't have doubts about Ford's quality, reliability, and longevity, I'd buy the F-150 hands down. It rides well, drives good, the turbo V6 has really good low end torque, and the 10 speed is a great
    combo of gear ratios. I'll probably never buy another Chrysler product, made that mistake years ago, not even under consideration. No GM products either. I've never owned a Ford, but I've worked
    on them, and I remember the kind of junk they made years ago, and that bad taste is still on my tongue. Toyota is still probably the safest bet, but they reek of Americanized greed now, like the
    big 3 have for 40+ years. It's a real shame that the working class guy cannot buy a decent, affordable vehicle anymore. I have considered not owning a car anymore. If I knew I had my current job, until
    retirement age, and that the local medical clinic was going to remain open (several other doctors gave up here) I'd seriously consider forgoing auto ownership, would be much cheaper, and less frustrating. That's why this is going to take a while, want to be sure I get the best vehicle for me.
     
  15. Nov 25, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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    I'm surprised a reg cab would be in demand in that area. Otherwise, I can believe the price, the cost of living, and salaries are astronomical there as compared to here in the mountains. I have checked used prices at some of the bigger Toyota dealers in NoVa online, and no way I'd pay what they want for used vehicles with many miles on it. I know there is a reason my dealer offered what they did, they didn't do it to loose money. They know they can get more somewhere, but I probably can't. Dealers always get a lot more than a 3rd party sale.
     
  16. Nov 30, 2019 at 8:40 PM
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    @1moonshine2 yep, but it all balances out. anything 4x4 is sought after due to virginia’s winters. i bought my tacoma a year ago on craigslist. it was $18.5k with 100k miles. This was the cheapest tacoma i had found. dealerships, including the one i work at, would charge 20k+ for it.
     
  17. Dec 1, 2019 at 6:37 AM
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    Yeah...no
     
  18. Dec 1, 2019 at 6:50 AM
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    Your truck is double cab with V6, OPs is regular cab with 4 cylinder...big difference.
     
  19. Dec 1, 2019 at 9:17 AM
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    I can believe $20,000 for a dealer's selling price. Private sale won't bring that. Trade in, not even close. The $15000 I've been offered is about right. The cost of some reconditioning before it's
    put on a dealers lot, plus profit, well that's about all I'll get from a dealer. I may get more private sale, but I'm doubtful. Would have to find the right person, and reg cab, 4cyl, manual 5 spd, isn't
    going to help that cause. Most on here are 4x4 and off road enthusiast, which isn't a representation of the general public, who want auto, and 4x4 only for bad weather. Many only want a pickup
    or SUV because it's trendy right now, and 4x4 is part of that.

    I have about settled on an F-150. They found a 2019 with a lot of rebates from Ford. They quoted me $19047 out the door, with my trade. It's a short bed, reg cab, 4x4, 2.7 Ecoboost, basically a
    work truck, no power group, black vinyl floor, etc., they did find a 3.73 locker axle (not many of them around). The electric power steering works great, to my surprise, the first electric boost
    steering I drove some years ago was very numb, and didn't return to center very well, this new one is quite different. The drive train is what really sold me, the 10 spd auto, plus all that low end
    turbo torque, it's really a sweet drive train. Normal maintenance items don't appear to be all that difficult. I'm a bit dubious about a Ford, and really they are the only one of the big 3 that even
    got considered. It was basically Ford, or Toyota for me. The F-150 is only a bit more expensive than a Tacoma, and a much more capable drive train, the wheel base, and turning radius are nearly
    identical. The F-150 really rides well, and is quiet on the road. I'm sure a Tacoma is superior off road, maybe a lot superior, but I'm not into that. The iron block 2.7 V6 is very quiet and smooth, and
    I really didn't expect it be all that. I may be making a big mistake, but I've got 6 years of warranty (which does now include safety systems, and engine electronics) plus the lemon law if things really go badly. Wish me luck!:p
    :spending:
     
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  20. Dec 8, 2019 at 8:31 AM
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    @1moonshine2 I know you’ll love that F-150. My dad had a 2011 F-150 ecoboost and it was great to us. So much room inside, tons of power, and it looks beautiful. It never gave us any problems. Plus, the aftermarket for mods is awesome.
     

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