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Tesla Cybertruck just revealed...$39,900!!!

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by TRDProOne, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. Dec 1, 2019 at 9:58 AM
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    Fearthisbeard

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    CREE, Wolfspeed, QORVO or other big semiconductor companies who have invested in GaN (gallium nitride) process and making GaN FETs
     
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  2. Dec 1, 2019 at 9:59 AM
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    Battery power......... Destroying the planet one strip mine at a time. Much worse than oil has ever done. The sheep are blind
     
  3. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:06 AM
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    Do you have any evidence at all to support this? There are going to be trade offs for just about anything, but the magnitude and timeframe in which oil and it’s associated products have affected the earth are unlike anything else short of catastrophic meteor impacts and volcanic activity.
     
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  4. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:12 AM
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    Tons man. Use your internet and go research for yourself. I don’t feel like posting a bunch of links. I’m busy eating and being a Netflix bum today. Lolol
     
  5. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:13 AM
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    I have no idea on C02 emmission totals vs semiconductor and chemical mining, however I do know some battery chemistries overt the past 30 years that always include at least 2 heavy metals such as Nickle-Cadnium, Lithium-Ion etc- on complete change over infrastructure I'm sure the contamination scales would be equal.
     
  6. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:17 AM
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    For some reason I still think this is some kind of Joke... Like is this REALLY the design they landed on? I just can't see that as being reality.
     
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  7. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:19 AM
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    I'm thinking the same...
     
  8. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:20 AM
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    Heavy metals certainly pose a threat, but they are concentrated, contained, and recyclable. I work in semi conductor research, we use some really nasty shit, but it can all be contained and recycled. Granted, that cost money, but it is becoming more economically viable by the day.

    the petroleum industry has been polluting the entire earth for over a century. Dilution is not a viable solution at these scales.
     
  9. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM
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    From people who have seen it: The Cybertruck is much larger in person than what videos and photos depict.
     
  10. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM
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    Everything but the driveshaft. B03A - 410
    Thank you for the tip!
     
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    This. Watched some videos and even in the F150 tow off, it made the F150 look midsize, lol. Even if this truck can boogie, its still going to be a fat pig.
     
  12. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:32 AM
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    I predict the basic triangular shape of the concept will remain but the production version will be more attractive.
     
  13. Dec 1, 2019 at 10:37 AM
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    It took Tesla just 168 working days to go from permits to a finished plant in China to build the Model 3. That’s pretty amazing...

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    Maybe could be Apple or somewhat Apple like. Not sure. What about it would be Appleish or Iphonish? The dent resistant metal seems huge to me. Will people demand it from other manufacturers? I certainly am very interested in that, especially for trucks which often get dents. But then the design might have to change to more boxy designs since apparently from what I heard on Youtube, that type of metal can't be shaped as easily.

    What else would make it Appleish or Iphonish? Outperformance compared to both gasoline trucks and even gasoline sports cars is the other thing that comes to mind. Less maintenance? Less cost for powering it?
     
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    That is not how a debate works. It is the responsibility of the person making a claim to support with evidence.

    Scientific papers are not published by making a claim, then saying “go prove it yourself” Anyone can make some wild claim with no supporting evidence. I can say Aliens landed in my backyard last night, but that does not make it true.

    This is how conspiracy theorize arise. Someone says some wild shit with no supporting evidence, then it gets repeated enough that people start to believe its true.
     
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    Now I remember when I saw that shape on a record album. It may turn out to be a big hit.

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    Like a crappy 80’s movie in the future. Zero out of the box thinking. Well........ Actually, they made a box. Lol
     
  18. Dec 1, 2019 at 11:14 AM
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    Not at all. Here’s reality, pal. I’ve had my kids all week for the holidays and ones birthday is also going on today. It’s calledI’m busy in real life. Go search for your own good, I’m not your babysitter nor tutor. How bout them apples?
     
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  19. Dec 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM
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    well, you are right. Looking closely now, front end looks like a late 80s Dodge, Plymouth or Chrysler car, like a LeBaron
     
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  20. Dec 1, 2019 at 1:52 PM
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    If you make a statement such as you did and then not back it up by facts, and you blow the person off who is asking you to elaborate by saying you're too busy, it simply doesn't make you right. So here are some facts:

    The 1st commercial oil well to extract oil from the ground was the "Drake oil well" in 1859 which began extracting oil commercially that year to the song of 2,000 barrels being produced. (source) Oil had already been used years before as an energy source. Bucharest was the 1st city in the world to be illuminated entirely by kerosene 2 years before that, in 1957. (source)
    Now, being that the lithium ion batteries (phone, laptop, Tesla batteries) technology was developed in the 1970's but the 1st battery wasn't commercially available until 1991 when Sony and Asahi Kasei began selling them. (source). After doing some math 1991-1859 = 132 and that means that the oil industry has been drilling and mining for oil for 132 years before the introduction of lithium batteries to consumers. That head start is so significant because it's difficult to even understand how much irreversible pollution and destruction to the environment has been done in that time frame by extracting oil before the arrival of lithium batteries. Hence your original statement that the same levels of pollution and worse will be achieved by the manufacturing process of lithium batteries is so uneducated that it truly can't be called anything less than idiotic statements of a simpleton. Here's some actual stats in production of both. USA is in the top 3 in production of oil on the global scale, and it produced 11 million barrels of oil per day (2018). Up from 9.3 million per day the year previous (source)

    The global production of lithium in 2018 was 85,000 metric tons. (source)

    So to make it easy for you I converted so they both equal the same number:

    2018 stats:
    USA (just one country) production of oil per year in metric tonnes: 547,748,977 and that's just crude oil. If you add shale oil and natural gas and other that number rises to 669 million metric tons.

    That is a gap that will never be closed. Global oil production is anywhere between 75-94 million barrels per day depending on which oils are being included to calculate that number (crude, shale oil, natural gas, etc.)

    So now try and figure out how much pollution is done across the entire world over those 132 years in just oil production. You can't because that statistic doesn't exist and never will.
     
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