3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Any news on the hikari 2020 vs old one? Could it be better?

 

They only updated the low end model, not the Ultra covered in this thread. If looking at LEDs, you definitely want the Ultra.

I also saw them say they were raising prices starting Jan 1 2020. So if looking at the Hikaris, I'd snag the Ultras with the current 15% off coupon on Amazon now.

 

@crashnburn80, bit of a OT question. I like that pure white look, no hint of yellow or blue. Some places list it as 5000k, some 6000k, some even around 4500k. Which is it supposed to be?

 

Has anyone used these as headlights?

 

I Had the H4 version in my 06 Scion Xb for 5 years without issue. They were brighter than stock, and had a very good pattern.

Philips got there good reputation for LED's from the H4 types. IMO.

 

The listing on Amazon which is sold directly from Hikari lists it as 6000k, I measured it at about 7000k initial output and 6650k stable output.

Definitely don't do that! Philips bulbs listed as fogs are specifically listed as fog because they are low output, likely wouldn't even meet a headlight legal minimum for output and would be very unsafe to drive with.

 

that was my next question

 

Wasn't asking specifically about the Hikari leds, but about bulbs in general.

 

Fantastic post by the OP.

I can't comment on my 2016 Tacoma, as I am still running the stock headlights. They are ok, barely...

I did install a set of HID headlights into my wifes 2013 RAV4. Pretty simple install.

Unbelievable quality! Yes, drivers coming the other way, have objected. However, she only gets flashed maybe once every 2nd day driving home in the dark. So not too bad.

Had to put them in. Here, a lot of the roads she takes are country roads with no homes, no road lighting of any kind.

Before, with her old Halogens, we could see at most 3 car lengths down the road. Now, at least 20 car lengths down the road.

Those stock halogens on the RAV4 were terrifying. In my 45 years driving, by far the worse headlights of any car or truck we have owned. I tried a number of different halogen bulbs, looked at LED, but the dealer/installer said go HID for her driving case, so I did. He was going to charge $150 for the install. No way, did it myself in 1 hour. The lights have been in for about 1.5 years now, no issues. We take her RAV4 now whenever we go out at night, the Tacoma stays parked.

We do a lot of driving on country highways, where the limit is 70mph, and there are cliff drop offs hundreds of feet down. A lot of very bad accidents and deaths on those roads. The HID are life savers.

Some pics under the hood of the RAV4.

 

Agree 100%. My experience mirrors yours exactly. Another good one, in addition to the Philips +100 is the Sylvania XtraVision. Purple package. No blue coating.

 

Hence why I ordered the Philips H11 headlight specific version I posted a few posts back, as it is not sold in the US like the fogs, so I had to order it from Japan.

Ah, my mistake! 5000k is what you are looking for. The answer you get can vary a bit in context, whether you are getting data on residential lighting vs vehicle lighting.

 

As crash said, don’t do it. I’ve read elsewhere from folks with first hand experience with these bulbs that they were so impressed with them in the fogs that they decided to try them in the low beams and it was a major fail due to very bad throw.

I had the exact same idea after seeing how bright they were in my own fogs. But I never tried it, simply because I read about other people doing it and they were unimpressed.

looking forward to crash’s results with the Japan market

$40 Philips H11 CrystalVision Ultra Upgraded Bright White Headlight Bulb, 2 Pack

Philips H11 led.

 

Wouldn’t it be cool if the

$40 Philips H11 CrystalVision Ultra Upgraded Bright White Headlight Bulb, 2 Pack

Philips H11 LED ticks all the boxes!?! Whatever company can get this done is gonna make bank. Tick tock...

Not gonna get my hopes on the Philips

But much thanks to crash for doing all the leg-work!! You guys know how much time, money, and frustration he’s saving all of us? If you added it all up... it would be a f’n LOT.

 

Being flashed isn’t a good indicator of offensive light, as the majority will not flash you. And being flashed that often is excessive.

A more balanced approach would be to swap the 9005 using in the low beam for a 9011 HIR1, by trimming the top outer plastic tab with a dremel. The 9011 HIR1 is the highest output stock wattage bulb in existence.

How to modify:
https://store.candlepower.com/mohirbuba.html

 

Could a 9005 high beam (which doubles as the 4runner DRL) also be swapped to 9011HIR1?

Is every 9011 an HIR1 or must it be labeled specifically 9011hir1?

 

I’m basically wondering if this is an HIR even though it doesn’t say so.

 

For your reading pleasure. . .

https://store.candlepower.com/9011hir.html

 

Yes. 9011s are HIR1s, just a different labeling system for the same bulb. Some 9011s do not have the IR coating anymore and use more conventional means to get the same performance, I haven’t kept up on which bulb brands still use the IR coating.

 

I’ve been googling... it’s an HIR/toshiba/Philips rabbit hole going back several years.

 

Yessss. Then you end up hunting down exotics like these.