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Discussion in 'Technology' started by Tacoma_SR5Pro, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Dec 7, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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    Some hardware / software combinations just don't work. I had an older mainboard and video card combo that didn't work with Windows Vista. It would always BSOD during install. Worked fine with XP and 7. The mainboard with a different card worked fine, and video card on a different board worked fine :notsure: I've had similar experiences with RAM as well.
     
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    Well, I guess I need to try to update my Bios, got the PC together (excluding the NVME drive) and it will start but I never receive a video signal. I don’t believe the R5 2600 has an APU but I tried both onboard ports as well as my GTX 1050TI.
    After I hit the power button it will run for about 30 seconds (no video signal) and then shut down, after about 3 seconds it will then restart and continue that pattern.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2019 at 1:47 PM
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    Well that was interesting, swapped ram and that didn’t make a difference, reinstalled nothing sticks, wiggles power connectors on board and PSU side and it fired up.
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  4. Dec 7, 2019 at 2:13 PM
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    I’m pretty happy with this look.
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  5. Dec 7, 2019 at 5:26 PM
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    Been running Assasins Crees Oddysey for the past 3 hours, CPU utilization is pretty stead in the 50-60% range, GPU has been pinned at 99-100 and CPU temp is 48C and GPU is steady at 59C without excessive noise.
     
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    Well...least you know where your bottleneck is lol.
     
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    Yep, I think an RX580 will do well, I’d like to go a little newer but don’t want to spend the $$, as long as I can get into VR eventually I’ll be happy.
     
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    That's a pretty old board at this point I imagine? I think Ivy Bridge or somewhere are there for compatibility. I can't really say beyond the systems I built back then were mostly Asus and Asrock, both seemed to hold up well.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2019 at 9:08 PM
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    Jumped into BIOS and ram speed was set to 2400, bumped it to 3200 (rated speed of the sticks) and now it won’t boot, plan it to clear CMOS and just go up the ram speed intervals until it fails to boot again and then drop it back down to where it worked, is this proper protocol?

    Edit: took it to 2933 and then 3000, left it at 3000 because I didn’t feel like having to take the GPU out again to pull the cmos if it crashed.
     
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    Probably won't notice the difference between 3200 and 3000 for most things.
     
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    I dont know on the VR side but Im sure youll be happy with a 580 for the price.

    Ive been playing Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order and have the 570 8gb. Its been running my cpu and the gpu at 100% but still doing 50-60fps at 1080p with settings at "epic" (highest). All while having a soccer stream up on the second monitor.

    So long as you just plan 1080p and arent trying to run super high fps itll be just fine IMO
     
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    Awesome!
    Yeah, I don’t have any monitors over 1080 except the TV in the living room, and none of my monitors are over 60hz anyway.
    I get 45-50 FPS in Assasins crees odyssey, I have the settings at high but it will automatically reduce some settings if it drops below 40 FPS.

    I OC’d the 1050TI a little bit, I still need to dial it in because I think it may have long term stability issues.
    I think I had to take the core clock down just a little bit from here while I was in game because it closed on me, I think my core voltage may need to go up but I don’t know how much I want to push that since it’s on MoBo power and doesn’t have a 6 or 8 pin connector.
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    Ewww, it sure is dirty for a system that almost never runs...
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    Just because it’s dirty doesn’t mean I won’t borrow the RX580 from it though...
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    I'm just wondering when you guys say "bump" your ram speed if you're using A-XMP or just playing with the speed? If it's the latter the lack of boot likely has to do with the timings being too aggressive for the higher speed you're attempting. Either slow the timings or add voltage (or both) and you should be able to run the rated speed. With the newest AMD Bios there should be zero issue running XMP speeds, or better, on a 2nd Gen or newer AM4 board.
     
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    Given the 1050Ti is rated right against the max PCI-E sloy power I wouldn't try feeding it more voltage or power unless the card can hook up to a PCI-E power plug. I mean it might work, boards often have some margin built in, but stability will suffer.
     
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    I’m just playing with the speed (right now), I’ll try XMP around Christmas when I have more time to play with the settings.

    Yeah, I’ll turn the power back down to stock when I get home and see what clocks I can get with that, I don’t think the potential strain on the MoBo or card is worth the small gain.
     
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    So this is interesting, with the R5 2600, 16GB 3000 Ram, and MSI RX580 (8GB) I’m seeing 55-60 FPS with 40-50% CPU utilization and 100% GPU utilization in AC:Odyssey with high settings and 1080P.
    I checked to confirm GPU drivers were up to date and they are.
    Am I wrong expecting more FPS from this rig?
     
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    V-Sync turned on or off? If i remember right your monitor was a 60hz?

    I also think I remember something about AC not being very well optimized. Think there was something about it would only use like 4 threads or cores. Could try running it and opening task manager - go to Performance - right click the graph for cpu and change graph to Logical Processors
    instead of overall. Then you can see usage of each core at least.

    Have a different game you could try? Some games like more CPU while others like more GPU
     
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    Google can help a lot with these questions.

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    If you look up the same rig with a 9900k you wouldn't gain a bunch of frames either. The RX 580 is the bottleneck in your system. It looks like the game is poorly optimized and, no offense, the RX 580 is basically a 60 fps card with most modern AAA games at high settings. For frame rates over 100 fps at 1080p you would need to step up to a 2060 or 5700.
     
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    and please don't take that the wrong way. I'm building my brother a system with a RX 580 right now. It's a good 1080p card, probably the best per dollar. That being said cards aren't that far ahead of games in terms of raw power right now so when you go for what's economical you have to expect a sacrafice. Even the crazy powerful cards, like my 2080Ti, are only pushing 100 fps in AAA titles now at 1440p. That tells us that we need pretty high priced mid range cards to expect similar results even with 1080p.
     
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