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Discussion in 'Technology' started by Tacoma_SR5Pro, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Dec 11, 2019 at 8:27 PM
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    I don’t believe it’s on, I know I didn’t turn it on.
    Correct, all screens are 60 hz.

    I booted up AA proving grounds real quick and I'm at the engine cap (I assume) of 175 FPS rock solid, I guess AC is more graphically intense than I assumed.

    I didn't even think of googling that, thanks.

    No offense at all, I was expecting more than a 10 FPS jump from the 1050TI to the Rx580 but I'm inexperienced with this stuff.
    I borrowed the 580 from my dad to see how it would perform, I'll have to check out the cost difference of going with a 2060 or 5700 for longer term performance.
     
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    If you do price things out odds are the best future proof buy would be a 2070 Super or a 5700XT, particularly the 5700XT.
     
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    Just updated my mouse pad, mouse sensor, and added a bungee.
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    Trying to lower my CPI and use my mouse properly. Using 1200 right now for general use. Going to play around with it in game though.
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    What computer/office chairs do you all use?
    Selling my DXRacer this week.

    * Has to be cloth fabric
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    * Not crazy expensive
     
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  6. Dec 17, 2019 at 7:58 PM
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    Looking at a 5700XT (I may treat myself if I get the job) and I’m curious, is water cooking worth the hassle?
    The RX580 that I borrowed is quite a loud card when gaming (aggressive fan curve is partly to blame but it creeps up to 83-85C) and if the powercooler red devil (triple fan) is as loud as the dual fan MSI 580 then I would want to consider water cooling.
     
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  7. Dec 17, 2019 at 9:23 PM
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    I do not recommend water cooking, aka boiling, any graphics card.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2019 at 9:40 PM
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    Jokes aside air cooled cards tend to make noise under load. In general the better the card, the quieter it is. Large fans spin much slower to move the same amount of air. Add that to the larger surface area that a bigger cooler/card occupies and it's easy to see why they're usually quieter than a stock OEM board version even with a mild overclock. For fans blower style designs cause more noise than standard fan designs, period.

    There are plenty of reviews out there that can let you know the as tested average noise levels from a card but the case will have a lot to do with how much noise you hear. A good case with heavy tempered glass sides and covers over the vents has a lot to do with limiting the amount of noise you'll hear from the fans inside. Lastly you can also downclock and/or adjust the fan profiles for the card in most overclocking software suites to match the level of noise you feel is acceptable.

    Water cooling isn't silent though either and if you've never done it I couldn't in good conscience recommend it. It's extremely expensive to do right and there are risks at every step that won't be covered by a warranty. While it's usually quieter the level of work to build and maintain a custom loop isn't usually worth the noise trade off. Custom loops are for looks and heavy overclocking for the most part.

    For you I'd just stick with the normal Red Devil card or go to the Asus Strix version. Do make sure your case can move enough air quietly to supply the card with reasonable ambient temperatures. That's probably where your issue is if your hearing a lot of noise from a graphics card.

    One other tidbit, most modern cards have a lot of coil whine for some reason. That's the reason I wear headphonea when I game now. I hate high frequency noise and small high power cards tend to make it. The nice thing is that the 5700XT isn't really pushing crazy power levels so coil whine should be minimal.
     
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    Hey guys, so currently have klipsch pro media 2.1 and have been looking at getting a sound card from evga but then would be looking to add new speakers. Not sure where to go from there. Any recommendations on speakers that would be a upgrade from the pro media 2.1?
     
  10. Dec 17, 2019 at 10:02 PM
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    The better question is why are you buying a sound card to run speakers? Those speakers have their own Amp and I can't see how a decent onboard DAC isn't going to be excellent for a Prosumer level speaker setup. Sound cards now are for driving high resistance speakers without running an external DAC/Amp combo. Long gone are the days of the soundblaster cards that were absolutely necessary. Good motherboards have high quality DACs electronically isolated from the rest of the board and can commonly do everything except drive Prosumer to enthusiast level headphones. Plus whenever whatevers on the board isn't good enough, external DACs and amplifiers tend to sound far better than soundcards. Really their day is gone.

    If you're dead set on a soundcard that's your choice and more power to you but I did want to bring up how pointless they are now. Basically any time you'd buy one you'd be better off with an external DAC and/or Amp unless you don't have the room for it. Even then unless your equipment is either high resistance without an internal amplifier, like high end headphones or setup in a perfect space for sound at an ethusist level, you're still usually better off using a high end board with a quality built in DAC over anything else.

    If you really want to buy something I recommend the external DACs over the sound cards. You don't need an amplifier for those speakers and an external DAC will outperform a sound card in that sort of situation.
     
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    Damn autocorrect :rofl:

    Thanks for the info, I think my case thermals will be fine, it has 2 120mm intake on the front, 2 120mm exhaust on the top, and a 120mm exhaust on the rear, I can also add a 120mm on the bottom if needed.
    It seems to evacuate the heat well with the 580 and the Wraith Max, when running stress tests I can feel a good bit of heat flowing out the top and during gaming I feel a little less but the system isn’t as stressed then.

    I may end up getting a headset, it would be nice to not also hear the dogs while I’m gaming.
     
  14. Dec 18, 2019 at 7:12 AM
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    Im surprised your 580 was getting that hot. The two i used to have never got that hot and the 570 I have now (sapphire nitro) runs more in the 60C range.

    As for watercooling...im with Sterdog on it. Dont bother unless you want just a side hobby. Good watercooling stuff isnt cheap. Those AIO units are fine but tend to not be any better than a quality air cooler (CPU wise) and AIO's for GPU's are out there but kind of funky IMO.
     
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    pro tip, headsets block out coil whine and fan noise while gaming :thumbsup:
     
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    Water cooling isn't for the faint of heart. I've destroyed a motherboard due to leaks and luckily didn't damage anything else. Fitment has to be within millimeters and your tube bending skills and math better be too notch otherwise you will have alot of headaches.

    My loop costs as much as some people's builds and was pieces together by myself over a few weeks. An efficient loop will typically not include aio's imo.

    I am overclocked to 4.2GHz on my 2700x and +495Mhz on my 2080ti.

    FPS with ultra settings and on my 34" curved 3440x1440 I get about 150fps on the new COD.

    Temperatures: idle both CPU and GPU are usually 26-27c, full load typically is within 58-62c.

    My build cost is substantial so I don't expect any less performance.
     
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    Just grab the Strix, Red Devil, or Gigabyte 3 fan version of the 5700XT then and you'll be happy.
     
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    An EK CPU block can cost more than the CPU in some builds. Great quality but crazy costs.

    Why someone would use AIO components in a custom loop would be beyond me lol. I know some AIOs like mine have pressure fittings on them that could be used in a loop but the pump/block combo would end up being the issue in any loop. The AIO pump can't pump enough fluid to justify the cost savings and it would be likely to fail if a larger pump is added in.

    Plus you have to clean out that loop every couple of years or risk degraded performance. AIOs are filled under clean room protocols to prevent fluid contamination. Good luck getting a custom loop filled without some contamination. Heck even most of the colours are only rated for a few years before they start to settle out.

    I've done a few loops and never had an issue as long as I did proper leak down testing. If high overclocks and a sexy build are your thing they are the way to go. Otherwise stick to AIOs or air. Heck I saw that new company in the US might of solved the heat pipe saturation issue and air might rival custom water again in the near future.
     
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    Hey that's what I said lol
     
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    Lol, off to buy a 3600X for my brother. I ordered him a cheap 2700X but today the local chain brought back their black friday pricing. The 2700X will go back to Amazon.
     
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