Can the 3.5 be supercharged?

Those trucks are already fitted with forced induction, so that's taking out a big expense of "adding forced induction" , and are we really comparing a camaro to a Tacoma now? Really? How much larger is the camaros engine to begin with?

 

URD is doing a meet up today or soon I saw with there supercharger. Hopefully someone from here is close enough to stop by and check it out. They have 7,000+ miles already on there kit.

 

go back to Edelbrock & US cars. go quickly, do it now.

 

Unless I'm missing something, that's pretty much the ballpark of many intercooled roots type supercharger kits. The reason you get so much more per dollar on a Mustang has everything to do with performance headroom - i.e. it's an engine designed to be tuned aftermarket because Ford knows it will be judged by what it is capable of, not how it is delivered. The 3.5L doesn't have a lot of headroom because it wasn't designed for it - it was designed to be efficient. It's plain stupid to compare the two.

People have been shelling out $5,500 for the 4.0L kits for some time now for less gain and I'll bet most have paid cash for the installs too. It's a fucking 6 cylinder truck, not a muscle car. If you want real gains then buy something with a V8.

 

This is a TVS1900, it will support 500hp on the 3.5 at around 12 psi. The limiting factor will be how much the stock bottom end can take...

 

Nobody is comparing a tacoma to a Camaro. I compared the gains per dollar.

I have no interest in edelbrock, but after the disappointment the tacoma has delivered over and over again, I will be going back to Ford.

If it sacrificed performance headroom for the sake of efficiency, Toyota must have some poor designers. It does a pretty shitty job of both. I never mentioned a Mustang, btw. The Ford I had in mind was the Ranger.

Also, you guys seem to think that the smaller engine with tragically anemic stock power justifies the pitiful power gains per dollar. All that says to me is that people are desperate to wake this sad little engine up a bit. I used the Camaro as an example because paying the fairly typical $6500 for a blower kit is a lot easier to swallow when it adds more power to the bigger engine than the tacoma has to begin with. I dont care if Carroll Shelby himself came back from the dead and offered to magic 75hp into my Tacoma. If he were going to charge me $6500 for it, I'd tell him to fuck off.

Yes, some people like to throw money away on terribly inefficient ways to gain power. More power to them. I can respect that decision. However, that doesn't change the fact that $6500 is absurd for such meager power.

 

It’s only money, does no good sitting in the bank. No matter that it is expensive HP.

 

These threads get dug up from time to time, cause a big stir, and still no actual release of kit.
No boost, no bickering

 

Damn straight. Get that money back in the economy. Don’t hoard it like those 1%er dickwads.

 

The boost is here. Just wait for stock to fill and start shipping.

https://www.urdusa.com/urd-mk3-supercharger-kit-2016-tacoma-3-5l-v6-stage-1/

 

The least expensive way on these trucks to gain torque and HP is to go back to stock tire size and remove weight, but that’s asking a lot. People with the money will be happy with 75HP extra.

 

URD looked great until I read not legal in California.

Also, is a water/air intercooler better than air/air?

 

Availability: coming soon
Even though they're not yet available, there's still lots of work to do, one must install, tune, and get the bugs worked out. Long ways to go yet

 

URD has over 7,000 miles on there kit. Tuning is not a problem they said although difficult.

Unsure about Harrop.

Magnuson is done and tuned. Available Q1 2020.

@OVTune also has several beta testers out with his supercharger kit. His twin turbo kit is also in the works although not near as close to release as the supercharger.

Still some things to tidy up on some kits but definitely not a “long ways to go yet”.

 

I saw a video someone posted on YouTube of Magnuson's both at SEMA and their guy said the Tacoma they had on display was making 363hp and 339 lb-ft which translates to roughly 30% gains, which is at the low end of what they're promising but he said they were just ramping up testing. That's not bad, but certainly not worth $6500. All of that said, reliability is a major factor too. Making a bunch of power is useless if it winds up breaking your engine or leaving you stranded out in the wild. Any forced induction solution that I'd consider would have to be well tested and extremely reliable. I don't want to compromise the longevity/durability of my truck in any way.

 

Only time will tell, I'd guess it's just as much out of your hands as it is mine.

 

Here is a dyno chart showing the older 2GR FE with a TVS1900 pushing a peak of 9.86 psi. It produces 410 hp and 331 tq. With higher compression and direct injection, the 2GR FKS is beating that torque number, and likely being fed only 5 - 6 psi. The torque curve on the 2GR FE looks great, the torque peak of a stock 2GR FKS is, what 265 at 4600 rpm? The boosted motor is making that by 2300 rpm. .. my best guess, this will be much nicer to drive than the peak gains being thrown around here are suggesting.

 

Like I said, I'd bet the 50% gain is in the lower RPMs, while the gain at peak power is less. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's a major improvement. It would make the taco actually bearable to drive.

I dont think longevity would be an issue as long as the tuning is very well done.

My issue is that it seems like a waste to spend that much money just to get to an acceptable level of power when the taco's competitors already have great power with the potential to make much more for a whole lot less money.

 

Magnuson just released the Jeep 3.6 kit. A 59% gain is advertised, 440hp and 380tq at the crank.The main TVS supercharger unit with heat exchanger are shared with the Tacoma kit.

 

hy is everyone waiting on a supercharger if you can already twin turbo it? Just curious