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Lifting 2011 PreRunner 2WD DCSB (Daily Driver)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by campfiretaco, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. Dec 31, 2019 at 10:31 PM
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    Take skids off, unbolt sway bar from frame and spindle, and remove assembly. Rides much nicer. A lot of people are scared it will makes steering really loose, but Ive made evasive turns at highway speeds and it corrected fine. Everyone I know has removed it and is happier.

    Also, running 37s on stock components with cheap spacers and having “the best ride” is extremely subjective, let alone hard to believe. Take everything with a grain of salt.
     
  2. Dec 31, 2019 at 10:37 PM
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    Anything short of full coilovers will likely result in premature wear of components.

    Generally, Compressing a stock spring with a spacer will increase stock spring preload, forcing the stock shock to work harder to dampen and shortening its life as it’s not generally made to dampen that increased stored energy.
     
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  3. Jan 1, 2020 at 12:28 AM
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    Does that help you out?

    Been there done that and I ain't interested. I'm pretty sure most of you know what a stock strut, stock springs, stock shocks, and aftermarket blocks and aftermarket spacers look like. I'm also pretty sure most of you know what JBA HC UCA's look like. So what's the point?

    I really don't give a f___ who does or does not believe me about... and I definitely don't give a f___ if someone who has never... "grain of salt". How many Tacomas do you all think is set up with stock equipment with 37's? Exactly, damn near no one has a clue what my truck drives like - but I do and I absolutely love driving this current stepping stone of my trucks build. This thing rides better than... nope I don't care.
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    That white one is a stock 5 lug 1st gen.
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    Yeah I cut the f___ out of that mid cab mount. I can drive over a curb with the front tires at any angle with zero rubbing but when I go off road it's a different story - for now.
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    OP, sway bar delete is just removing all the bolts for the sway bar and letting it fall to the ground. The truck definitely has a greater lean in the turns at speed, it's initial lean is pretty loose but it gets to a certain point and stiffens up well. I've read quite a few comments of people that don't like the handling after removing the sway bar, I like it loose. Getting rid of the sway bar definitely allows the trucks ride to improve. I can take a fairly tight turn with a speed limit of 25 mph at over 35 mph and that's good enough for me for now. My wife literally asked me "why does this ride so well?" the first time she rode in it.

    And if anyone out there isn't full of disbelief and negativity (OP?) I'd love to know the distance between the front bump stop and the LCA while the truck is on the ground. I failed to measure mine prior to installing the spacers so now I'm not exactly sure where to set my bump stops at so I don't destroy my stock struts. I need the front struts to last about a year or so and without the bump stops at the correct height that ain't going to happen.
     
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  4. Jan 1, 2020 at 12:30 AM
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    Spacers do not compress anything over stock. Blocks don't either.

    OP you wouldn't believe all of the misinformation out there that just keeps getting retold over and over by people that have no clue what they're writing about.

    Happy new year everyone!
     
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  5. Jan 1, 2020 at 12:35 AM
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    It currently rides better than stock. 37's roll over potholes and speed bumps much easier than the stock 30 1/2" tires.
     
  6. Jan 1, 2020 at 12:58 AM
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    Oh yeah, a spindle lift does not retain the stock geometry as previously stated by someone else.
     
  7. Jan 1, 2020 at 6:23 AM
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    He said stock springs not stock height. Betting a sawzall came into play.
     
  8. Jan 1, 2020 at 8:05 AM
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    Happy new year ya animals!
     
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    Nothing but blocks and spacers and cutting the cab mount, fenders, fender flares, and inner fenderwells (as has to be done with 37's regardless of the type of lift).
     
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    The point being not everyone wants to chop up there truck to make something fit. Hell you make anything fit. Hell take off the fenders and bed and you can run 40s.
     
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    Nope, with the new coils you don't have to set the adjustable on anything other than the 0 notch.
     
  12. Jan 1, 2020 at 9:37 AM
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    I know. I was just curious of the validity of the claim. I know guys that barely squeeze 37s with LT without major rubbing, let’s alone being the ‘best ride’ on a spacer lift.
     
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    @DG92071 why so mad bro? Me personally, i love to see Tacomas on 37s where the truck isnt LT or back-halved etc...

    And nobody said it retains stock geometry. I said it retains NEAR stock suspension geometry. With 5100s @.85 and 885s....i got about about a 3" lift but i had reduced bump steer and my LCAs were at an extreme angle....and it required SPC ucas to gain caster.

    With lift spindles and stock coil springs on the 5100s set a 0... i got a 4" lift but without the extreme lca angle and it aligned like a stock truck where i could have used stock ucas instead of the adjustable SPCs. And it rode much nicer because of stock coils vs 885s

    Photo of LCA angle with spindles
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    I dont use 37s but my truck is rides fine with 35s with a CmC and trimming of the front inner wheelwell splash guard. I didnt need a BFH to pound any sheet metal.

    I reread the OPs original post and his requirements. He has an est. $800 budget and wants a lift for cosmetic reasons...no need for offroading etc. I had similar requirements like OP.

    I still think lift spindles plus rear blocks are the way to go for him.

    OP: as always...ride comfort, yes/no on sway bar, 37s soak up more, etc...all of that is subjective. One persons "comfy" can be another persons "harsh".
     
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    You are correct about 1 thing, I make anything fit.
     
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    I found a limitation of my truck today, above 90 mph the feel of the truck starts getting a little too loose in turns - but it made the drive interesting. It's probably those damn spacers and blocks lmao
     
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    Re-reading the same bad information over and over gets old. Spacer lifts do not destroy anything on a PreRunner.

    The biggest reason I used 37's is because of price and availability. Baja racers use 37's and 39's, I'm close to Mexico, and that translates to me being close to a lot of used 37's and used 39's. Well over 1/2 tread life left for $300 for all 4 tires. Someday I will get bigger tires, but I've got a lot more to do before that happens.

    I can definitely see advantages to a spindle lift and coil overs and I also see advantages to a $22 spacer lift, a $20something block lift, and HC UCA's on a PreRunner with no front CV's. I think an extreme LCA angle looks cool AF, can damn near ride a bike under mine (LOL).

    I didn't use a hammer for anything but the factory pinch weld. I didn't need to do any major cutting other than that cab mount and I REALLY cut that. The cab mount chop I did was to get it driveable, I've already purchased the steel, and I have the tools to make a new one and move it as well.
     
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    I have the lift spindles on this truck. QSA sells a set for 400$ off Amazon. It aligned pretty well, the ride is a little rougher but it's not by much
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    I’m sorry, did I say anything negative about your build? I asked for a fucking picture.

    In response to another post I said ride quality is subjective. Which is 100% fact.
    No one is hating on your build that your wife loves.

    Congratulations on being so special.
     
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    No, I don't recall you writing anything negative about my truck. You did get a picture, several in fact.

    Ride quality is not subjective because it can be measured. Desired ride quality is subjective. Many have hated on my truck. My wife doesn't love my truck, I do.

    Thank you for noticing that I'm special, I completely agree.
     
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    As long as you love it. have a good night man.
     

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