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Is a 2" Lift Worth It?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by gudujarlson, Jan 3, 2020.

  1. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:14 PM
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    Kaptain_02

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    Not worth it IMO. There is nothing wrong with the stock OR suspension, you have a new truck, so see what it’s capable of the way it is now. You can go larger, stock, with 265/75’s with a more aggressive tire which should do everything that you’ll ever need.

    Lifts are overrated, been there done that...

    *edit*. Looks like you’ve already gotten it stuck, missed that the first time. I still recommend tires first before thinking about a lift. My next move would be a winch if you keep getting into those situations.
     
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  2. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:17 PM
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    That's not how any of this works.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:17 PM
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    i agree to a extent...

    lifts are overrated to the under-educated. Someone who knows the benefits and can utilize them will find a lift very very well worth the investment. I am one of these people :)
     
  4. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:18 PM
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    Among the worst advice I’ve read in a long time.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:18 PM
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    haha, feel free to educate me then, senpai. Apparently i know nothing :)
     
  6. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:19 PM
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    Someone already explained it. Shocks don't lift anything. The 5100's just allow you to run a lift. I have 5160's in the rear, 5100's with a resi, they add no lift to the rear.
     
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  7. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:23 PM
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    Read the above quote.
     
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  8. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:27 PM
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    gudujarlson

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    Would love to play with a winch. In that case though, there were no trees within 100 yards. I had to get it out it out with some honest hard work. :)

    Many times I have one out with the intention of getting stuck for fun. I love the engineering problem and the exercise.
     
  9. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:28 PM
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    Lol, some of you guys are hilarious. Let’s just throw money into a brand new truck when you’re not sure of what you need. Give it some more time, get used to driving this truck off-road, and figure out what you really need.
     
  10. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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    That’s why you bring ground anchors. Can winch from them pretty much anywhere.
     
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  11. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:30 PM
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    If i understand correctly, then i agree - i wasnt clear, the front is absolutely lifted by simply adding the 5100, not because of the preload, but because of the extended length of the shock which provides the lift.

    For the rear, i dont fully agree, but i have not experimented to be certain. I do know that i put a 1.5" aal in the rear, and then a 5100 and i have a total of 1.5 lift in the rear, so the rear shock not changing lift height because of the leaf springs would make sense to me, i can see that.

    Front has nothing to do with preload causing lift, the preload is a side effect of the lift. Length of the front shock tower is what gives lift.
     
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    Yeah I'd say start with the tires and see what he thinks from there. Unless it's just 5100s or something cheap that is, 5100s are under $400 for all 4.
     
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    Dude, shocks don’t provide lift, period. The only thing that provides lift are springs and coils. They are what hold the truck up if you will. Shocks simply provide dampening.

    If you took the coil or leaf pack out your truck would slam onto the bump stops.

    The 14” king shocks in the rear don’t lift me any higher than my OEM 10” shocks. It’s the leaf pack that provides lift. This is true with coils.
     
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    since you asked... here’s my .02

    Leave the suspension stock, get airbags and get a really nice set of tires. Done & done.
     
  15. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:36 PM
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    I am not that much of a newbie. I had a 2016 before this. I upgraded to the off-road because I knew I wanted to do more off-roading. Additionally, I had several trucks in my youth, all 2wd rust buckets, that I off-roaded. I just got back into the hobby when I bought my 2016.
     
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    You can run 5100's at stock height...
    And shocks don't add lift.
     
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    Ok, yes the springs are required, but im saying you cant get lift with longer coils on a stock shock tower because the travel will bottom out and max out... I suggestd 5100s with stock coils, because using the stock coil with the clip setting on the 5100 you can largely avoid preload, and still get the height advantage of a more expensive kit that includes longer travel shocks and taller coils.

    Just saying that coils are the answer is not accurate, its better to go with an adjustable shock and keep stock coils, than to buy taller coils but keep stock shocks, especially if someone is on a budget. Shocks with settings first, springs later.
     
  18. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:39 PM
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    correct! Winner winner!
     
  19. Jan 3, 2020 at 5:40 PM
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    I am really impressed with the all-terrain goodyear wranglers that came on the 2020 OR compared to the all-seasons on the 2016 SR5. I can drive around in snow in 2wd with no weight in back. Thew SR5 was helpless in the snow in 2wd. In 4wd, I can barely spin the tires in snow (on the road). I have to keep it in 2wd to have fun.

    To return to my original post, I don't find traction to be my limiting factor. I find break over angle and departure angle to be my limiting factors. I think that's probably typical for a stock pickup compared to a stock jeep. The pickup has a longer wheelbase and a bed overhanging the rear axle.
     
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