Is a 2" Lift Worth It?

But the shock itself does not. I think people need to learn the difference between shocks, struts, and coilovers.

https://www.shockwarehouse.com/news/differenceshocksstruts.cfm

http://www.monroe.com/en-US/shocks-101/shocks-vs-struts/

 

If you want to get pedantic, then yes, the shock itself is providing no lift, because it is a damper and they don't support weight.


But. If you put stock shocks in that coilover that don't have adjustable coil buckets like the 5100, then you can't adjust ride height.

 

Did you read your last sentence before posting? "you just said put stock shocks in that coilover." The front stock suspension of a tacoma is a strut, the 5100s are a strut. There is no coilover.

The 5100s are an adjustable strut. We know this, lift is achieved by moving the strut up but the coil is still doing the heavy lifting of holding the vehicle up. OME and others offer lifts with struts that are non adjustable but that doesnt mean a shock provides lift. Yuo could put a shorter coil in and achieve no lift, meaning the coil is providing the lift, you still need the coil.

 

IMHO. Every little bit helps. “Worth” is dependent on the individual situation.

 

The way I read this, and several other sites, is that a adjustable strut is a coilover. I'm going to go do something productive now.

https://www.shocksurplus.com/pages/shocks-vs-struts-vs-coilovers

 

Which makes perfect sense as to why you don't understand the difference. Have fun on your productive project. I actually have a Dana 60 I need to start grinding on as well.

Algebra and calculus must be the same too right because it's all math

 

How does the coil lift the vehicle if it hasn't changed?

I personally did not say the words "shocks lift the truck." That's another guy.

 

That’s kind of the point. Change the coil and you change ride height. You can lift a vehicle without shocks or struts, but you can’t lift a vehicle without coils or springs.

That’s why the rear can’t be lifted with just a shock, there’s no coil. You could remove the leafs and fab up a 4-link and use coil overs.

 

I think you still don't understand how 5100 works. With 5100, you don't need new coils to lift the truck. Use the stock, existing coils. The way you keep wording this will make others reading confused.

You can lift the front of a Tacoma with only buying bilstein 5100 front shocks, nothing more. Set the circlip position at the desired height per the instructions. Bam truck is lifted with stock coils. Goodnight.

 

I described how they work perfectly in my previous comments.

What’s confusing to people and new readers is the misuse the terms shocks, struts and coilovers.

 

good to know you love me <3 i am walking spell check

 

noticed that. btw, there is no 'pedantic' interpretation for the people who deal with this equipment. definitions are clear.

 

Bilstein themselves calls 5100 a "shock absorber." It's not a strut or coilover until you assemble it.

 

LOL. You guys totally highjacked my thread with an issue I don't care two shits about. As I said in my first post, departure angle is what I think is one of my truck's weaknesses, not approach angle. A 2" front-only lift is not what I think will improve my truck regardless of what provides the lift. All cool though. I'm just messing with you after a few drinks and a Vikings upset. SKOL!

 

terminology.

Technically, the strut or shock tower itself is not a full "strut assembly" until it has a hat and coil as well, hence that is just a shock absorber.

 

I was still looking for a good distinction between coilovers and struts.

https://www.1aauto.com/content/articles/shocks-and-struts

Looks like tacos have coilovers, by the definition at the link above, since the wheels are attached via an upper and lower control arm and not via the bottom of the shock/spring assembly and a lower arm.

 

You were already informed on the best methods to improve departure angle... A lift will increase those angles, which is why it was mentioned.

Aftermarket low profile bumpers are the biggest gain for departure angle, as well as removing the spare tire that hangs lower than the frame rail, getting a underbox skid in case you do rub, etc. These trucks have quite a bit of box behind the rear wheels, so the options to increase departure angle are a bit limited, short of chopping the box and frame rails off shorter. Idk what you expect to get for angles, if you cant work with the options, maybe a jeep was a better plan for you?

 

I was mistaken about the rear bumper I think. I took a better look at it earlier today and watched a rear bumper installation video. It appears that I could remove the hitch receiver with little more work than removing bolts and that would improve departure angle significantly. I still need the hitch, but a higher receiver placement and a longer drop hitch could work.

I didn't buy a jeep because of the towing capacity and because I like pickups.

 

If departure angle is you’re issue the get an aftermarket high clearance bumper with spare tire carrier.